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    Posted: 10 Sep 05 at 10:05am
Wow, that's pretty heavy! I guess being so heavy it needs a lot more sail area for the same performance as something like the 800 - won't slow down as quick though! Sounds like I want to try and avoid bags then. Are the 800s much more popular than the 4000s, any idea? There seem to be a lot of 4000s coming up for sale than 800s, and the 800s are twice the price.
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It depends where you sail, both boats are really popular, best looking at the nationals attendance figures for a rough guide and then going to your club to see what's sitting in the dinghy park. For instance at HSC, we have no 800s in the dinghy park just now but a good few 4000 but at other clubs the reverse is true. The 800 did take a massive chunk out of the 4000s market but you have to be aware of regional trends too. Up in Scotland, the MPS and 49er are really taking off just now and are showing a real growth in comparision to other classes but that will be different in other areas.
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I'm moving house in a few weeks and moving back again (hopefully) in a year so my sailing club's gonna change soon! I sail at Chew Valley near Bristol at the moment (used to spend a lot of time up at Faslane btw - not sure if youd have been sailing then though!) and there's a few 4000s in the boat park but I haven't seen any out yet, but have seen a couple of 800s. Saw a 49er advertised recently that looked to be a total steal, but unfortunately I need a bit more cash for that or an 800!
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Having sailed both 49ers and 800's I,d say the only significant difference is the skill level required by the crew. On the 800 you can get away with a slightly less physical crew, who makes the odd mistake and you wont get punished too much. Weight wise the 800 is actually a better weight carrying boat than the 9er, contrary to popular belief. From a helms point of view the 800 is quirky and can be a arse in light winds whereas the 9er is a piece of cake until you reach 20kts. 9er can be difficult to launch and recover from narrow slipways and especially when you have an onshore breeze with a narrow slipway.
9ers are however cheap and there are a couple at Chew, Chris Gill, Ben McGrane etc. A good 2nd hand old boat £3000.
As for 800 a good 2nd hand boat £4500

Given your position If you have a guarenteed crew, get a L4000 or 49er if you havnt, get an RS600!
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i have seen quite a few 800's at chew and only 1-2 9ers, i have also only seen 3-4 L4000's.

If ur looking for class compation at chew in the 800 but if ur looking for fun the 49er or just for a laugh and some comp the L4k

i personaly wouldnt mind u having any of them cus their all fast and i can have a good go in 1    if im lucky

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Post Options Post Options   Quote jpbuzz591 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 05 at 8:30pm

yeah if you need a crew....

also ben i have seen you have put up an add in the clubhouse saying you want to do sum crewing and at the mo, i am a crew/helm short

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ginger_69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 05 at 8:32pm
if u were wondering ben he sails a buzz and spends most of his time ither in the water or messing round with a laser on sat's 
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me sail a laser? ive never sailed a laser!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CurlyBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 05 at 9:05pm
Cheers craiggo, I guess really I need to try them both out but that's a little tricky! Do you know how they compare in terms of maintenance costs? Could be pretty important! I'm waiting to hear back from wilwind, they're selling off some boats and I've asked for prices. Been told I may be able to get a loan from parents if what I want comes up at a good price! I'm guessing being ex-centre boats they'll be at good prices (here's hoping, anyway!). Sounds like I'm gonna need a rota or something to organise who my crew'll be  , think france asked first! jp are you gonna be down on saturday? I'm hoping to get down then, but my laser's at home at the moment! I put that ad up before I knew I was going to be moving house for definite, gonna be leaving in a month  but i'll hopefully be back this time next year.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jpbuzz591 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Sep 05 at 9:06pm
no sorry ben im not going to be there on saturday casue of a rugby match but might be down on the sunday
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