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    Posted: 30 Aug 05 at 9:46pm
Yes my Magic Marine is wearing badly in the bum, but if you want an adjustable harness this seems to be the best.  I have a Banks off-the-shelf for my use but occasionally I take out the odd crew and so I need an adjustable.  Having nearly drowned once by getting snagged on a buckle I use a Magic Marine because all the buckles are covered with velcro - but even they catch occasionally.  I have never been snagged by a hook - the new rule was clearly devised by somebody who doesn't trapeze.
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yeah, it should be more to do with having your buckles covered cause they are the dangerous things. the hook is quite difficult to snag and it should come out again quite easy as the space between the hook and the harness where you attach, is quite big
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Originally posted by Contender443

I have the Magic Marine Smart harness with their quick release system. This system looks pretty sturdy and would be difficult to release accidetally.

I have not seen the RWO system except in the adverts - it looks like the button release system could be too easy to release, especially when you don't want it to. However the fact that it saves your hook on the trapeze ring and can be re-used immediately looks good. Shame that Iain C cut away the plastic retainer.

 

I was worried about the button being too easy to press but it is flush with it's plastic housing so will only release if you really need it to.  I have climbed in over the back of my Cherub numerous times and never released it yet by accident.  It was this fact that made me take the plastic hook retainer off...but it's not cut, just removed, so I could put it back on if required.  On the Cherub, you have no main jammer, so to tack from the wire I pass the main to my tiller hand, reach up for the handle and unhook using the elastic tension on the trapeze loop.  You just don't have enough time or enough hands to disenage the hook halfway across the boat.
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Originally posted by redback

Yes my Magic Marine is wearing badly in the bum, but if you want an adjustable harness this seems to be the best.  I have a Banks off-the-shelf for my use but occasionally I take out the odd crew and so I need an adjustable.  Having nearly drowned once by getting snagged on a buckle I use a Magic Marine because all the buckles are covered with velcro - but even they catch occasionally.  I have never been snagged by a hook - the new rule was clearly devised by somebody who doesn't trapeze.

Neither had I until last weekend when one of the Fireball crews at my club slipped off the centreboard of her boat when capsized and stuck the hook through the bottom of the boat.  The hook then would not pull out at all. The boat then turtled with her face down on the bottom of the boat.  It was a MM ladies' harness and teh only way out (other than using the knife) was to undo the straps and get out of the harness which she did OK.  Had the boat been mast upwind and righted itself, it could have rapidly got very nasty, as she would have then been stuck underneath it underwater, with positive bouyancy keeping her where she was.  Yikes!!

Needless to say she is off to the chandlery for a new QR spreader bar...

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