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Hurricaned 
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 Topic: Roll Tacking CatsPosted: 19 Aug 05 at 10:29am |
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Hi been training in a few crews on my Hurricane recently in time for the club frostbites and having a horrible time explaining how to keep boat speed up through the tacks, anyone mastered this manouvre on a hurricane or another twin trapeze cat?
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 19 Aug 05 at 11:31am |
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On the 5.9 it goes something like this : 1, Helm puts the tiller over while both on the wire 2, Crew goes in and moves back to get the bows out a litte 3, As helm’s bum gets wet he(she) comes in and moves across the boat behind the crew 4, Crew moves forward and out on the wire 5, Helm does the same Bingo ! Should be around 8 seconds wire to wire ! |
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mickymouse
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Posted: 20 Aug 05 at 8:51am |
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Hi Harricaned, you could try this, make the same moves as scooby simon but for Nr3 the helm stands on the stern and steps/walks around the back of the sail, crew gives him the wire job done, or the helm is swimming Bingo I think I wouldn`t worry to much about the tack just get it right and go up the right side of the beat get my 1-5 sec or more back, I possible lost on the tack . |
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 20 Aug 05 at 12:27pm |
5 seconds per tack; 3 - 5 tacks per leg, 5 laps so that is between 15 to 25 seconds. Waking around the back is slow as you need to sort the mainsheet out as you also need to let a little bit off in the tack. |
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mickymouse
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Posted: 20 Aug 05 at 3:59pm |
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hurricaned,yes can see you point, it was a figer i pulled out of the sky,but when its so, its a lot at the end of the beat.How much time on a tack wourld you say, you saved by makeing a roll tack in a cat. When its no go around the back, how about still standing hard on the stern then at the right moment, ducking under the boom and up the other side letting that bit of main out as you go under.crew gives you your wire, here go's out on his wire you next sheet in and go for it. Bingo, yes,yes, yes. "or." Mouse |
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mickymouse
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Posted: 20 Aug 05 at 4:02pm |
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sorry post was ment for scooby simon
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Scooby_simon
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Posted: 20 Aug 05 at 10:22pm |
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Have you ever sailed a Hurricane ? The Boom is still fairly low at the back even with a foot of sheet let out ! You would not be "ducking under" you'll be on your knees to get under !
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mickymouse
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Posted: 21 Aug 05 at 1:29am |
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scooby simon, I love to sail a Hurricane 5.9 but never seen one here. Its only that I look in there website / Y&Yforum and gozzza (CSSC) that i have a intrest in them. OK lets go back to walking around the back of the sail.you say the main, to let it out is the prob... and its slow going around the back,OK your both on the wire main hard in and your flying OK LETS GO... helm down... give the sheet to the crew....he come's in under the boom letting 15cm or so out from the main.... your hard on that stern....crew's getting his hook... you walk around the back.. hook up, tack the main from the crew, get on the wire pull the main back in...Bingo yes,yes,yes "or" |
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Tornado_ALIVE
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Posted: 21 Aug 05 at 12:27pm |
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Moving your weight back so you are trapping at the rear beam is suficient enought to get the bow out. As you pass head to wind, come in of the wire, let a little main out to help accelorate out of the tack and can also try and lift the old leward / new windward hull as you pass under the boom and keep it flying as you power up on the new tack. Seen a few "perfect tacks" where the skipper has rolled the boat over on top of them and got out on trap on the other side without the hull touching the water. Looks great when done properly...... Can be dangerous in gust or high winds
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Hurricaned
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Posted: 25 Aug 05 at 10:23pm |
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Great, the problem im having at the moment is that im sailing in very shifty inland conditions. Tried Scooby_simons method and theres a definite improvement, the trouble is getting the timing right for coming off the wire, but getting better. My crew posed and interesting question, should the jib on the hurricane be backed at all on the tack or set immediately?
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