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    Posted: 02 Aug 08 at 7:11pm

The precreived picture is rule bending & I can`t be bothered to follow the BS or follow up on the history ( see point below ) because it`s not interesting to watch a sport that I enjoyed being mucked about by RICH OLD MEN,Even if we are talking about lead mines which again don`t interest ME

BTW History is something that you should use to learn from,BUT history is alway writtern by the WINNERS NOT the LOSER`s OR is nessasary the truth.

So up to my 6 Pence worth & will not be going for 8 Pence

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Originally posted by bert

So use the law courts to bend the rules to make winning easier, Not a good image for the sport

BMWO and its supporters would assert that isn't what they are doing at all. Perhaps you should look into the history of what's happened a bit more.

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Originally posted by Black no sugar

LOL Had fun with the editing tools, Bert?

Yeah & the spelling is still bad! One day I`ll get it right possibly?



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 08 at 10:50pm
And the counter appeal is in!!!

All things being equal I feel the DoG challenge must be the way forward. Won't look great if we have two hideously expensive half built multihulls abandoned to build some expensive monohulls.
Seems a bit wasteful to me, and from a PR point of view that can't fail to be a bad thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 08 at 10:40pm

LOL Had fun with the editing tools, Bert?

I think that all these legal wrangles alienate more and more that elite end of the sport from the grass roots we are. We used to look up to these races as the pinnacle of big boat sailing; it's slowing sinking into a dark, expensive farce. Pity.

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question:- Are we sailors OR legal eagle`s

As a sailor I think  Ithey are impressive boats that have NO real interest to ME but provide a talking point with non sailors this allows an interest in sailing to be brought forward however the tailing point at the moment is not usefull! OR is it?

However when I can`t win on the water ( which is everytime i sail ) I don`t try to change the rules because we all accept the same rules when we started the race,

I should change the way I sail & improve my sailing Not change the rules of the game.

So use the law courts to bend the rules to make winning easier, Not a good image for the sport & I am NOT interested in doing that!

Also to spend the large amounts of money on legal challenges when the masses are suffering a cash crises is normally seen as elitst.

Thats my 2p & why I would have a lack of interest & would be surprised if I was alone in that veiw.



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Well said Stefan.

And I guess the cup will weather this storm as well. Might take a while to get things moving again as everyone has been distracted by the DOG match.

Cowes could be an interesting place to be next week with Alinghi, BMW Oracle and Origin all present in their cats.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 08 at 6:48am

Originally posted by bert

Do we really care?

Outside the Olympics, it's the most important event in sailing and has been for over a century. It's survived two world wars and the Great Depression. Team Origin shows signs of finally being a properly funded and managed British Challenge and an opportunity for the best small boat sailing country in the world to shine on the bigger boats.

And if that doesn't grab you, ever seen an IACC boat in action or even a 12M? Incredible boats.

So yes, as sailors, we should care.

 

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Doe`s it really matter?

Do we really care?

Who know`s?

Who cares?

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The whole thing stinks with 2 huge billionaire egos involved. The Swiss are behaving like the Yanks ie use any trick possible to prevent a Challenger from winning. It is not rocket science to see that a Defender is in a position to steal a march on a Challenger by setting the Rules to suit something they have been working on for months.

Americas Cup Racing is aping F1 ie totally stupid and losing all credibility. AC Teams should be from the Country of Origin ie no floating Kiwis!

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