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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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There is apparantly a man in Aus who bought an A-class and cut 18" out of the hulls to make himself a be-spoke F16 so that he could add the kite and have some serious fun... With the Taipan 4.9s in F16 guise at Changi SC we see no difference in performance other than the ability of the helms... |
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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You said it Granite..... Plus, of course, you narrow the number of potential punters when you come to sell the boat. |
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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What I was thinking was that if you expected to sail 80% of the time on
your own then you would have the option to design the hulls and
rig to work best in this configuration giving you a potential
advantage over other boats with a more compromised design.
Possibly as you say not a great idea as you would loose some of the flexability and you would probably be as well just going for an A class |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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Yes, we/they really do race boat-for-boat in either configuration. Why optimise the hull volume for single handing? You would take away the flexibility of sailing in either configuration that is one of the most attractive things about the class! |
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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They sound like just the sort of cat that is needed. The single/double options sound good. do they race single and double handed at the nationals are they realy the same speed? there might be room to optimise hull volumes for the lower weight of single handed config |
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Jalani ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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The F16 could be a major part of the future of catamaran sailing worldwide. Where the F18 class has already taken off in a big way with the involvement of major manufacturers and some independents, the F16 at present is exclusively the preserve of the enthusiast and the small independent builder. The F16 is much more than a scaled down F18 though, it's power to weight ratio is much better and it is a much more open formula as mentioned above. As a result innovation is welcomed, in fact positively encouraged. The boats are theoretically on a par with F18's on a boat-for-boat basis and many have demonstrated that they can be faster! F16's are, without exception, very rewarding to sail. They are light and responsive and the slightest adjustment to the rig can be felt straightaway. They can be dead and slow one moment and then with a pull on the downhaul or a tweak of mast rotation the boat will spring into life and let you know that it's set correctly. In this respect I haven't had so much fun from a boat in over 30years of sailing. It's a tweakers joy! To describe it as the Cherub of the cat world is close to the mark BUT for me its major selling point is the ability to sail the same boat two up or solo by simply removing the jib and then sailing to the same handicap! I sail my Stealth in both configurations and there is no noticeable speed difference other than manouevres are quicker two-up (more pairs of hands Downwind with a kite solo is an absolute blast! And yes, I have been out solo in a F5-6 with no real problem (I only weigh 65Kg) and when I did capsize, I was able to right the boat on my own and continue racing. There aren't many cats other than A-class that you can do that with! So now when I race I can push really hard, knowing that if I/we capsize it won't be a problem, we'll be back up and racing again in moments. Just like being back in my dinghy days! I think F16s are great - I'm having a ball! Edited by Jalani |
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sailwave ![]() Sailwave Moderators ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom, Mumbles Online Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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http://www.geocities.com/f16hpclass/ John Pierce builds Stealth F16s in the UK. Very attractively priced boats... AIUI plans are available for the Blade F16 to do a home build. Edited by sailwave |
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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It is as close as you can get to a CHerub on two hulls! Literally a box rule boat - the weights Simon was talking about are all-up sailing weight not hull only, about 18m2 white sails and 17.5m2 kite. Have a look at the orange cat photo I posted on the Favourite Photos thread... |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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It is a box rule for a 16 4 inch foot cat; 5m long 2.5 m wide Weight 104 kg single handed sloop+kite, 107 2 up cat rig plus kite 8.5m mast As far as I know nothing is banned except hard sails
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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The F16 has been mentioned a few times but what sort of class is it, what is allowed and what is banned?
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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