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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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Dear Petitioner UKCRA have in the last few days sent a letter to the IOC which can be found at http://www.asnr29.dsl.pipex.com/IOC_Petition_ISAF.pdf. The text to the letter is also set out below. As Councillors gather for the next ISAF meeting this weekend, now is an appropriate time to deliver it to the IOC, with two very specific and doable requests. 1. Votes in favour of Multihulls at November Meeting followed by Submissions for the May Meeting = UAE, AUT, AUS, DEN, ESP, FRA, GBR, CAY, RUS, SWE 2. Votes in favour of Multihulls at November meeting,
without May Submissions = CHN, BRD, IND, JPN, PUR, SIN, VEN, RSA
Letter to the IOC: Jaques Rogge, President Cc: Members of the International Olympic
Committee 7th May 2008 A PETITION CONCERNING THE 2012 SAILING REGATTA Dear Mr. Rogge We ask that IOC intervene to ensure that the 2012 Olympic Sailing Regatta include a Multihull Event so that it genuinely presents “the wide range and diversity of sailing” as claimed by ISAF’s President, Goran Petersson. Multihulls represent a large branch of the sport, accounting for between a tenth and a third of global participation depending on the basis of calculation and have been part of the Regatta continuously since 1976. However the Commission now requires that the Regatta be reduced from 11 to 10 Events. Last November ISAF chose to do this by eliminating the only Multihull Event, rather than any of the two Keelboat, two Windsurf or six Dinghy Events. As explained in our Report, it appears that ISAF did so because multihulls are politically weakest, not least representative, least telegenic or least suitable for the Olympics. In the view of your former colleague and previous ISAF President, Paul Henderson, “The most interesting observation is to see how many MNA's are now saying that their delegates were instructed to vote in the best interest of their specific country winning medals - not in the best interest of our beloved sport. Surprise! Surprise! Holier than thou pontifications are quite hollow methinks.” In doing so, we believe that Councillors did not vote in the “interests of the sport of yachting throughout the world” as required by Article 41 of the ISAF Constitution, because your 2002 Review of the Olympic Programme provided recommendations on how to interpret this (See Appendix 3). In general, you recommended that “weight category events should not be allowed, except for the combat sports and for weightlifting”, yet ISAF proposes an Event for 1 Person Dinghy (Heavyweight) and against “similar events” yet ISAF proposes four Dinghy Events for Men. Specifically you criticised sailing for “low broadcast and spectator appeal”. Your subsequent 2005 Report noted that ISAF had taken steps to increase the appeal of the sport by “introducing faster and more spectacular boats”, yet now it has taken a step backwards by completely excluding the fastest boats of all, namely Multihulls (See Appendix 3). In addition you also provided guidance on encouraging participation by Women, yet ISAF is increasing its preponderance of Events for Men, by eliminating the only remaining Open Event, which is Multihulls. You then also noted that “the Keelboat class are very expensive boats …. for general practice and development compared to other classes” and wrote that “if the Executive Board recommends the reduction in the number of athletes and events, the Commission believes these reductions could be made through the exclusion of keelboat sailing events”. Yet ISAF disputed this unambiguous advice. The leadership of ISAF continues to dispute your recommendations, despite: - • An
appeal from the Royal Yachting Association on behalf of the host nation
Now it proposes a guillotine motion to its Council, which meets on 10-11th May, in order to stop further discussion and “reaffirm” its decision to oppose your guidelines, even though members have the right to place submissions on the agenda for its Annual Meeting in November. According to a letter of 11th December 2007 to Council members by the outgoing Secretary-General, Arve Sundheim “At the Council meeting on 9 November and prior to making the decision on the ten events for the 2012 Olympic Programme, the ISAF President was explicitly asked by a Council member if there was any IOC guidance which may affect the choice of events. The ISAF President responded that the IOC guidance was to achieve universality, nation participation, medal spread and media appeal. Be assured that if there had been any specific IOC guidance which was new to the table, you would all have been advised in advance”. We therefore ask that • As its President did not do so, you remind ISAF Councillors of your specific long-standing guidance, published in August 2002 and May 2005. • Should Council still exclude any Multihull Event, you postpone the reduction of Events one more time, on the basis that Multihulls would deserve to be included in the Games based on these criteria of “universality, nation participation, medal spread and media appeal”. (Appendix 2 shows what the multihull community achieves independently without ISAF support.) You have significant influence over ISAF because it has a “very high reliance on Olympic revenues (65%) and a low percentage of its income comes from marketing and broadcasting (10%)” according to your 2005 Report. In the interests of the Olympic Spirit, please use it. On behalf of 6000+ petitioners from more than 60 countries, including numerous ISAF sailors of the Year, Olympic medallists and other sailing champions, key organisers of our sport, influential media figures and leaders in the yachting industry (See Appendix 1). Yours sincerely,
Nick Dewhirst |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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ISAF just voted not to reaffrim the November decision, meaning they accept the decision in November was wrong.
After not reaffirming they voted on whether or not to open the Men's & then the Women's Events but neither got the required 2/3rd's vote required. Men: 21 Yes, 17 No. Women: 21 No, 16 Yes. |
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Mark Jardine ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028 |
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I thought this might happen... So what they've decided is that they've made the wrong decision but they're going to stick with it. Great... nice to know the system works |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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To misuse a boxing term, multihulls may be out, but not down!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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I think if there was an obvious better slate they would have gone for it, but the trouble is you can make just as good a case to keep every other event as you can for the multihull.
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oz man ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 26 Apr 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 247 |
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Jim without going over old ground thats bullsh*te. You know it,i know it, looks like isaf know it aswell. so where dose that leave us? as far as i can see a poorer games in 2012 and a govening body that dosent know its arse from its elbow. It makes me feel sick that my subscription contrubutions go towards funding this bunch of t**sers. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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OK mate, so what was this obvious better slate? I say there wasn't one, and I've certainly seen no consensus on the net as to what one might be. I say ISAF were between a rock and a hard place, that there was no good choice open to them in the circumstances, and that they may well have got it right.
As for the delegates' anatomical knowledge and solitary nocturnal entertainments, I'm happy to say that my ignorance of their capabilities is absolute, so I can't comment. Edited by JimC |
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Jon Emmett ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988 |
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The equipment committee voted for the removal of keelboats.
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olly_love ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145 |
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is that as an entirity. so skud 18 star yling and what ever the match racing boat is
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TWO FRANK-Hunter Impala
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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And I say that probably would have led to the loss of sailing in the Paralympics in the long term, and also disenfranchised even more people than losing the multihull. Therefore it was not obviously a better alternative. You might not agree with the relative merit I put on the two, but surely you at least recognise the argument has legs. 18 months ago, BTW, I would have agreed with you and said why on earth have we got old slow boats for old slow sailors in the games. If you do a really thorough google session you can probably find forum posts where I say as much... Edited by JimC |
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