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    Posted: 12 May 08 at 10:18am

I think now the final decision has been reached its time to stop debating/complaining now before the achievements of the people who's disciplines were chosen, are tarnished with grudges held by those who unfortunatly were not given a chance to compete.

I am not saying its easy to swallow, having your event thrown out, I am completly impartial here, but as the ISAF President said himself - no event is in or out the Olympic Games forever. If you want something really bad, you can find another way of achieving it - thats probably what the women skiff sailors will do - they'll sail a radial, a 470 or a match racing boat. There is a 60:40 split between men's and women's now.

Controversial comments I know, however, we now have to look forward to potentially the best regatta ever sailed on British waters. It will be historic.

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From ISAF SAILORS:

It was frustrating not being able to speak out directly in the Council Meeting as I left feeling there was more to say in the debate but a lot of the sailors’ views were voiced through certain Council Members. Some Council Members gave very good reasoning behind supporting a reopening of the vote. Others explained how policies tied their hands or expressed fears of greater upset being caused by re-voting. There where some real heroes in the room who stood up against their committees’ wishes (of self interest) to do the best for the sport as a director of ISAF.
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Well, if you hold to the school of thought that says close boat to boat tactics, multiple overlaps at mark roundings, what gets called tactical racing is as exciting as raw speed then you probably would think keelboats are more exciting than multihulls.

And face it, boats aren't fast in real terms. The wheelchair marathon record is about 15knots. There aren't many sailboats that could equal that round a normal course in most conditions. You say to a motor sport enthusiast that a Cat is more exciting that a leadmine because it does 20mph instead of 10mph and he'll say "big b***** deal..."
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But have you seen what the General Sec Jerome Pels has said...Keelboats are as exciting a spectacle to watch as skiffs and multihulls...Funny contradiction to the IOC survey!!!

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

The equipment committee voted for the removal of keelboats.

And I say that probably would have led to the loss of sailing in the Paralympics in the long term, and also disenfranchised even more people than losing the multihull. Therefore it was not obviously a better alternative. You might not agree with the relative merit I put on the two, but surely you at least recognise the argument has legs.
18 months ago, BTW, I would have agreed with you and said why on earth have we got old slow boats for old slow sailors in the games. If you do a really thorough google session you can probably find forum posts where I say as much...

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is that as an entirity. so skud 18 star yling and what ever the match racing boat is
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The equipment committee voted for the removal of keelboats.
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OK mate, so what was this obvious better slate? I say there wasn't one, and I've certainly seen no consensus on the net as to what one might be. I say ISAF were between a rock and a hard place, that there was no good choice open to them in the circumstances, and that they may well have got it right.

As for the delegates' anatomical knowledge and solitary nocturnal entertainments, I'm happy to say that my ignorance of their capabilities is absolute, so I can't comment.


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Jim without going over old ground thats bullsh*te. You know it,i know it, looks like isaf know it aswell.

so where dose that leave us?

as far as i can see a poorer games in 2012 and a govening body that dosent know its arse from its elbow. It makes me feel sick that my subscription contrubutions go towards funding this bunch of t**sers. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 08 at 5:13pm
I think if there was an obvious better slate they would have gone for it, but the trouble is you can make just as good a case to keep every other event as you can for the multihull.
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