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    Posted: 04 Mar 08 at 8:56am

Originally posted by G.R.F

You wouldn't need volume, how difficult would it be to just lay a plastic
drain or sewer style pipe strategically placed..

A number of us a Ballyholme tried the sewer-pipe approach as a cheap way of making a snuffer for our Hurricanes when the SX first arrived (couple of years ago). Actually, sewer pipe is prohibitively heavy and we used 6" electrical conduit.

The trouble is/was that the "mouth" is too soft to take the abuse from the halyard. As the halyard chafes into the polyprop pipe it creates sharp edges which then go on to knacker your spinnaker. So you need to make a smooth and hard "mouth" out of grp or something.

I agree with your drift though. Many cats have a sock (zero volume) running from an aluminium tube ring which acts as the mouth of the chute (Landenberger market one). The B14 is a cracking boat and I am surprised that no one has attempted to make the kite-launch any easier.

Back to the thread.. The Five-0 was always the boat when I was a kid. Far too many strings, and far too fast. The Alto seems to be a good progression from that. Good luck.

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I have hardly sailed anything asymetric but on symetric boats with chutes, Lark, Javelin and Laser 2, it is a great pleasure to see the kite burst forth into the sunlit air. However in reality much of the time a quick dive under the foredeck is needed to untangle the bloody thing and many times we set off up the beat with the spinny stuck half way in the chute and flapping round the forestay. Hence we now sail a Tasar!
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Can't comment on the others but IMO the chute on the Laser2 was just too narrow to allow the kit to get in and out without a struggle. And the opening was too near the bows which is why you needed that wire catcher thingy to stop the sail going under the boat.

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Originally posted by English Dave

The B14 is a cracking boat and I am surprised that no one has attempted to make the kite-launch any easier.

The B14 kite is around 300 sq ft.   Thats a big load of fabric to wreck on each haul up & down through a small shute on quite a small hull with low freeboard.   And the shute and kite would fill with and trap water.  I'm fairly certain if a B14 was modified to a shute, it would end up being slower around a course.

If you are sailing triangles, then the bag system pants for windward launches and I agree a small kite in a shute is better ( ie RS 800).  But the B14s sail up and down courses, so windward and leeward launches are fine.

 

 

 

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Bags seem to have worked fine for years on a plethora of skiff classes down-under...  A chute in a B14 just wouldn't work for various reasons.  Just learn to use a bag, it's not that hard, it's easier on the kite, and with the wings the helmsman still has provides the righting moment to drive the boat while the crew is packing the kite.

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You bagwomen, what are you doing in here?

Get a service wash why don't you?

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Isn't time for your mid day nap? I'll get your nurse to mash up some banana and apple for when you wake up. The bib is in the drawer.
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So, when do you take delivery? And will you have someone on photo duty for that first sail?
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You young whipper snapper are sooo lucky the dementia caused me to
forget my planned addition to the Cherub stand..



But then again as I drew close, I realised it was totally unnecessary..

Don't you Cherubim wash?

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