Room for an obstruction

   Was B on the same leg of the course as A? What point of sailing was B on, what was his course relative to A? Describing B as being on 'port gybe' as opposed to 'port tack' suggests he is not beating to windward but beyond that all bets are off (though I would assume he was sailing lower than a beam reach).

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Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Room for an obstruction Posted: 15 Jun 23 at 1:43pm
	Was B on the same leg of the course as A? What point of sailing was B on, what was his course relative to A? Describing B as being on 'port gybe' as opposed to 'port tack' suggests he is not beating to windward but beyond that all bets are off (though I would assume he was sailing lower than a beam reach).
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Old bloke Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 Nov 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 121	Post Options Post Reply Quote Old bloke Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 23 at 5:41pm
	If I were clever I would draw a picture. Boat A is running on starboard with the tide ,aiming to leave a moored cruiser on his right hand side.(to complicate he has boats to leeward so can't bear away further . Boat B comes across on port gybe and requests room to pass between A and the moored Boat. A gave room to avoid a collision but didn't protest. Ps, nothing to do with me, I was just a spectator. I assume the port Boat B is in the wrong but ,to me, the room at an obstruction rule wasn't clear

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 23 at 4:45pm
	Yes and no. The Right of Way boat gets to choose which side of the obstruction she will go - 19.2(a), but if there's an overlapped boat that will be between her and the obstruction she must give it room to pass the obstruction on that side too - 19.2(b). You can't force a give way boat to go the opposite side of the obstruction from you. Edited by JimC - 12 Jun 23 at 5:47pm

laser193713 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889	Post Options Post Reply Quote laser193713 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 23 at 3:44pm
	I can't really picture a situation where this would be an issue, unless both are dead down wind. In which case, simply gybe on to starboard and then call for room. Assuming that you would need to gybe on to starboard in order to avoid said yacht....

Old bloke Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 Nov 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 121	Post Options Post Reply Quote Old bloke Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 23 at 2:07pm
	Can a boat, running on port ,request room for an obstruction from a boat on starboard without incurring a penalty? The obstruction was a moored yacht, near enough and large enough to qualify as an obstruction.