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    Posted: 28 Apr 23 at 5:26pm
Ah yes, I do chuckle at those times I’ve been called woke, or a worse, a leftie … and no, they weren’t referring to port tack bias.
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Young man like you TT should know that the term cancel culture is used as a pejorative these days.  Wink Synonymous with woke, snowflake, pinko, commie.  LOL

Example:

"For goodness sake, I've just been banned from using the office lift because I keep farting....bloody cancel culture gets right up my nose"
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Oh, and FWIW:

cancel culture - a couple of options, humbly suggested:

Apple will no longer support your Elvis biopic series Mr Weinstein, but we have commissioned The Morning Show

And

Whilst the Etchells Class no longer welcomes you Mr Handsy Sh*tsaks to any competition and hereby expels you from class membership for life, we have also taken a decision to remove Hull Number xxxx on Sail Number yyyy from the class register and request you remove licensed sail insignias forthwith - it will will no longer be class compliant for you or any future registered owner.

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Originally posted by ttc546

Originally posted by Late starter

Can't say I've experienced the sort of behaviour the Etchells lady describes at any time during my 40 odd years in the sport. 

You may not have done because you are, like me, a man - and therefore not atuned to the things that women are experiencing. Because, we, as men, dont see it, doesnt mean it isnt happening - and right in front of us sometimes
Yes I think that's correct. Which is why my experience of the sport and my daughters seems to be so different, sadly. 
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exactly ttc556 - 

And my comment on cancel culture was NOT a criticism of it, but not sure how we can deny it exists Duncan?

"blunt but effective" were my words, and as I would have hoped citing Harvey Weinstein would have illustrated, I think it has merit in certain circumstances - this case may yet met that requirement. it's certainly not for blokes to decide.

Next time I'll go with Jeffrey Epstein, just to make doubly-sure I've not come across as in any way endorsing these anachronistic thunderc*nts ... hope that clears it up.

Happy Bank Holiday weekend folks.

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Originally posted by Late starter

Can't say I've experienced the sort of behaviour the Etchells lady describes at any time during my 40 odd years in the sport. 

You may not have done because you are, like me, a man - and therefore not atuned to the things that women are experiencing. Because, we, as men, dont see it, doesnt mean it isnt happening - and right in front of us sometimes
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Can't say I've experienced the sort of behaviour the Etchells lady describes at any time during my 40 odd years in the sport. In fact several of my friends met their other half through the sport. But my daughter experienced some very inappropriate behaviour towards females while on an intensive residential DI course at a well known commercial sailing centre. An informal complaint to the centre management went nowhere, but rather than take it further two of the females decided the sport wasn't for them. 
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Gerald Ratner, the ultimate cancel culture King. Very effective, people need to think about their actions, could be devastating.
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

It may be seen as cancel culture by some. To others it will be seen as "oi,  I say old chap, your behaviour isn't acceptable here so you can jolly well f*** off "

Totally agree. It’s has nothing to do with ‘ cancel culture ‘ which is just a made up phrase normally used by people that defend this sort of action by men. 
It’s just about a action that all of us would agree is simply wrong. 
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It may be seen as cancel culture by some. To others it will be seen as "oi,  I say old chap, your behaviour isn't acceptable here so you can jolly well f*** off "
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