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    Posted: 24 Apr 23 at 1:51pm
Ironically it was a year ago almost to the day when things dissolved into the realms of the unnecessary and it was a robust discussion over the 505 and wether or not a more modestly equipped boat to a price point might be more effective than my opinion which was the Alto could have done exactly that. Naturally my 'foible' of blaming the PYAG came into play and then for some reason and I can't honestly remember why 'trans' issues came into play, these day they seem to have trumped Godwins law in bringing discussion to an end. I think it was the ID known at the time as G****cat who forced my hand so I left him to it and since then there have been no controversial discussions, it turns out he flounced anyway. However as I said in my delayed post on page seven, without controversy there can be 'no-one wrong on the internet' to keep us keyboard warriors up all night. So we look elsewhere. Now if you think fb is an appropriate place better think again, you get to go to fb jail if you so much as breath controversial comment for example involving pies and keys. Truth is as I previously explained this place was a garden of peace and love compared with many forums I've visited over the twenty odd years I've been involved in Astroturfing, trolling or simply amusing myself with banter, so I would be really sad to see it go and I really hope whatever Mark has up his sleeve to replace, rebuild, renew or simply overhaul continues. Now in support of Salcombe pirate we met at the Forum open where I also met many folk who posted here at the time and it's a shame it didn't become an annual event. It was he that gave you the 'Fuller Number'he's a really nice and clever guy in real life and in fact I'm probably not the total t**ser that I may appear to be here. Actually meeting and getting to know folk is the perfect antidote to any anger that may be generated by place like this, you get to know if the opponent of your views is a dick or not, like any bar, pub or social meeting place, that's what's missing.
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Re iGRF above

Facebook is hilarious, nay despicable, in that they're sanctimonious over postings made that don't comply with their view of the world, but they totally, absolutely encourage the relentless stream of snake-oil scam adverts plus spamming <expletive-deleteds> trying to sneak into every user-group to hawk their fake rubbish.

I'm an admin on the RS100 FB group; the only thing that takes any of my time is managing the fake accounts trying to trojan-horse their way in with dodgy t-shirt ads or whatever.

Critical mass works both ways  - without dramatic changes, I can foresee the point where FB reaches a downward tipping point, and users desert on masse, ruined by greed and negligence. Can't wait.

Meantime, welcome back Graeme, just save the misplaced PYAG obsession and paranoia for SA
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Welcome back Griff by the way I think your bubbles in foam sandwich would work if the bubbles were helium, boat would float above the water
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Originally posted by ttc546

Originally posted by Old Timer


Originally posted by Salcombepirate

Okay, I’ll leave you to it Old Timer.  I have contributed far more posts here than you have over the years but I have recently deleted my other accounts.  I’ll make this my last post and leave you to it here.  Even Mark has admitted its run its course in it present form and has joined The Pin End.  Y&Y still the best source of news.  
Good winds.

Anyone can claim other IDs. Which ones are you claiming? 
My point stands, it is not for you to declare this forum dead and it’s poor form for you to use it to promote a competing community you have created. 


Old Timer - It is precisely your type of toxic response to a genuine comment that makes this forum not a nice place to be. You may not agree that this forum is dead but everyone is entitled to their viewpoint and aggressive responses like yours really don’t help. All he was doing was giving an alternative place to hang out. You either go there or you don’t. Your choice. But your response was completely inappropriate. Play nice or don’t play at all.


What is toxic about calling someone with a post count of 6 for using this community to promote their own competing on-line community; and then declaring this one dead ...

I'd say that is poor form unless he sought the permission of the owner of this site to promote his Facebook group? In which case I take it back.

I'm not commenting about the future of this place just pointing out that using it to promote your own competing community isn't really cricket ... 
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I never left, Mr Fuller 😀
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Originally posted by 423zero

Welcome back Griff by the way I think your bubbles in foam sandwich would work if the bubbles were helium, boat would float above the water


I still maintain my bubble theory produces a faster craft than a not bubble filled craft. What however is the limiting factor is wether or not the craft is formed in a mould. In a mould no, the bubbles wouldn't make a difference, but built traditionally over ribs, you use ply and I use my sandwich, you lose. Once again another example, like old man back there not reading posts and taking in what's written, and jumping to the wrong conclusion but it produced amusement at the time so a good thing.
Recently I hadn't left I just reduced my input and left the place in the hands of y'all wokefolk, the problem you get, if everyone agrees, then the tumbleweed appears. If no-one winds you up y'all just don't post.

Tell me, why are you not all offended by the way the Topper OD class has been raped by ROTOMOULDING?

Why have you not all been talking about the multiple Laser builders ruining that class thanks to the ILCA and they're doing nothing about it?
That claim I made is fact from probably the most reliable builder source.

I would have thought these two facts alone are the worse affront to class racing folk who show such disdain towards us handicap mongrels? (I'm currently actually not a mongrel at the moment in my Contender if ever the weather permits me to get on the water this season, but thinking of making a return to mongrelworld due to injury issues)

Finally re the here v there thing, it's not an either or, they are just different places that attract different dinghy folk post in both of them it's not written that you can only be in one or the other is it?










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Originally posted by iGRF

 

Why have you not all been talking about the multiple Laser builders ruining that class thanks to the ILCA and they're doing nothing about it?
That claim I made is fact from probably the most reliable builder source.

I would have thought these two facts alone are the worse affront to class racing folk who show such disdain towards us handicap mongrels? (I'm currently actually not a mongrel at the moment in my Contender if ever the weather permits me to get on the water this season, but thinking of making a return to mongrelworld due to injury issues)

You really dont learn do you? You have posted an outrageous staement with absolutely no supporting facts behind it. If it were true, as I posted to you on TPE, the SA forum would be all over it and they are not. You are, yet again, trolling. Its friggin boring to see these posts from you. Grow up Graeme. Post facts to support your discussions. Then we might have a forum that is a pleasure to come to and have fruitful discussions

How about posting about the assault claims by a female racer in the Etchells World Champs class that is now a growing storm of a topic about how men in the sailing world behave. No? Because you would rather post BS instead
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There, I bit. Please go and troll somewhere else. 

Please, someone take his keyboard away from him, as I am sure in real life he is a bearably nice enough person. 


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Ttc546, perhaps post it yourself? I haven't seen anything about it.
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Originally posted by ttc546


Originally posted by iGRF

 
Why have you not all been talking about the multiple Laser builders ruining that class thanks to the ILCA and they're doing nothing about it?
That claim I made is fact from probably the most reliable builder source.

I would have thought these two facts alone are the worse affront to class racing folk who show such disdain towards us handicap mongrels? (I'm currently actually not a mongrel at the moment in my Contender if ever the weather permits me to get on the water this season, but thinking of making a return to mongrelworld due to injury issues)

You really dont learn do you? You have posted an outrageous staement with absolutely no supporting facts behind it. If it were true, as I posted to you on TPE, the SA forum would be all over it and they are not. You are, yet again, trolling. Its friggin boring to see these posts from you. Grow up Graeme. Post facts to support your discussions. Then we might have a forum that is a pleasure to come to and have fruitful discussions
How about posting about the assault claims by a female racer in the Etchells World Champs class that is now a growing storm of a topic about how men in the sailing world behave. No? Because you would rather post BS instead


I don't learn? Really? How would I know all this? Why would I make such an outrageous claim if I didn't believe my source? Your job is more to verify your outrage and denial with a quote like "I've spoken to so and so and it's simply not true Graeme" I on the other hand have spoken to the one to my mind most respected builder who has no orders, having committed to the class because of their outrageous behaviour. You want to continue calling me a liar go back it up.

AS to the female I'm already well invested in that discussion but it's taking place at the other place because that's where the lead source placed the quote. Go and copy the link to the scuttlebutt news and place it here, that's how it works, and how it ceases to be boring for you, you place the quote then join the discussion rather than sniping at others who have taken the time to educate you. (As you would a child!)
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