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    Posted: 10 Apr 23 at 9:38am
A lovely Idea Mark but the issue is where the money would come from, Advertising for the dinghy sector must be slim pickings, Rooster, Insurance but after the that the ‘Home Page’ is Yacht focused. Probably why Dinghy Magazine folded ‘back in the day’. 

We are also a small be very diverse group with little synergy between: club Laser Sailor, Merlin Rocket sailor who does open meetings mainly and say an RS600. These people will go tho their tribe for information and report with little that actually unites us. 
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It may look and feel like a throwback but it also sounds like a throwback.

Yachts and Yachting.....sounds exclusive.
Sailing Today...... sounds more Inclusive.

Only a small point but one of many. How an organisation presents itself is so important particularly if it wants to have wider appeal. (Does the sport of sailing want wider appeal? Maybe not)

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Totally understand your point . It’s something my club addressed a few years .
We used to be called Mid Warwickshire yacht club which as we are a small midlands reservoir club doesn’t  describe what we do or even where we are .
We are now called Leamington Spa Sailing Club. Which was decided sounded more inclusive and described what we do and where we are . Smile


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Originally posted by Mark Aged 42

[---]This forum looks and feels like a 70s throwback,

Quite an achievement when you think about it, considering when the technology was actually invented!
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There was a brief period of "Dinghy Sailing" you want to get picky, why are we administered by the Royal Yachting Assoc?

 
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Originally posted by Do Different

why are we administered by the Royal Yachting Assoc?

Mainly because the RYA doesn't want to keep changing names like IYRU/ISAF/World sailing... There wasn't really competitive racing in dinghies in Victorian times, so bigger boat sailing (yachts) was run by the Yacht Racing Association, while the only small boat racing was in sailing Canoes, and organised by the Royal Canoe club.
But also its picking a suitable word. The RYA is just as involved with cruising and motor craft as it is with sailing, and while motorised craft are described as sailing when they leave port it still feels as if using sailing would exclude to much, and boating just doesn't seem to sound serious enough to me!
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Doubtless you got that I'm slightly obtuse and often tongue in cheek. Yes it's historic and looking at other examples the Royal patronage doesn't hurt likely the most wealthy charities in the UK RNLI & RSPB. Yes, maybe Yachting does sound elitist but then having seen other major organisations attempt at rebranding to encompass all I'm often left with the feeling the the identity has been completely lost. 
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Nice examples Do Different.

Neither the RNLI or RSPB are looking to attract customers/participants in quite the same way as a sport. Their objectives are very different.

And yes, it's very difficult to rebrand without losing momentum completely but it can be done. Changing a name for whatever reason? be interesting to see how the  boat formerly known as the Laser does in the long term.

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Royal warrants. Does anyone know which companies still have them? Do they make a big deal of it as they used to or do they relegate that piece of info to the small print on the back page. Commercial pressures dictate. They are better at knowing what the customer prefers, what image is most presentable and what makes most money. Even Royal Mail are changing their name.

Blame it on Andy LOL



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They have changed the name of the holding company a couple of times in the last 25 years but the postal service still trades as 'Royal Mail'.
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