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    Posted: 05 Apr 23 at 1:35pm
Back in the day I never missed an issue of Y&Y.  I purchased it for
1) the for sale pages - now for free on class websites, or not for free on Apollo Duck
2) race reports -now on website, or results accessible on club websites
3) Straham Soanes (hope I spelt his name correctly) profiles, which made heroes out of dinghy sailors, in a way that is not achieved today
4) knowledgeable articles by the likes of Michael Mac
5) brilliant columns by Bob Fisher and Jack Knights
Much though we would loved it, it is not possible to recreate these halcyon days … anymore than David Gilmour appearing on the same stage as Roger Waters 
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Not forgetting iGRF also wrote for them.
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Back in the day I never missed an issue of Y&Y.  I purchased it for
1) the for sale pages - now for free on class websites, or not for free on Apollo Duck
2) race reports -now on website, or results accessible on club websites
3) Straham Soanes (hope I spelt his name correctly) profiles, which made heroes out of dinghy sailors, in a way that is not achieved today
4) knowledgeable articles by the likes of Michael Mac
5) brilliant columns by Bob Fisher and Jack Knights
Much though we would loved it, it is not possible to recreate these halcyon days … anymore than David Gilmour appearing on the same stage as Roger Waters 


Jack Knights died over 40 years ago.

One of the problems here is people banging  on about 50 years ago.

Gilmour and Waters have been on stage together a couple of times this century. It's time to stop looking back to when Syd was in the band.
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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by davidyacht

Back in the day I never missed an issue of Y&Y.  I purchased it for
1) the for sale pages - now for free on class websites, or not for free on Apollo Duck
2) race reports -now on website, or results accessible on club websites
3) Straham Soanes (hope I spelt his name correctly) profiles, which made heroes out of dinghy sailors, in a way that is not achieved today
4) knowledgeable articles by the likes of Michael Mac
5) brilliant columns by Bob Fisher and Jack Knights
Much though we would loved it, it is not possible to recreate these halcyon days … anymore than David Gilmour appearing on the same stage as Roger Waters 


Jack Knights died over 40 years ago.

One of the problems here is people banging  on about 50 years ago.

Gilmour and Waters have been on stage together a couple of times this century. It's time to stop looking back to when Syd was in the band.

You seemed to have missed the point that David’s footer is “happily living in the past”
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Apr 23 at 8:30pm
Its a thought though. I'd agree that back in the day reading the mag I cherry picked the articles for one that interested me, read the two top columnists,and then scanned the race reports for people I knew. Maybe the ads for boats I knew too, although that would hardly apply to Laser sailors! A substantial part of that content has gone on the web and isn't coming back.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Apr 23 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by fab100

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You seemed to have missed the point that David’s footer is “happily living in the past”

Seems more like miserably trying to drag everyone else back there?. If you want to live in the past, you're gone , the world has moved on.
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There, in less than thirty words is what is wrong with this forum....


Edited to clarify, I was referring to the negativity of FAB' post, really none of his business what Davidyacht wants to post.

Edited by 423zero - 06 Apr 23 at 9:06am
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Originally posted by 423zero

There, in less than thirty words is what is wrong with this forum....

Disagree completely.
The fundamental problem is it stopped being a place where people wanted to hang out.

Nostalgia for the past is very big business, so I submit that can't be the root, especially as there's no great sign of nostalgic content.

I severely limited my participation due to lack of moderation of posts that made serious accusations, and I submit that's part of it, but I also blame the scorn that was too often heaped on entry level boats, and effectively their owners. If you come to a forum with your proud new possession, and the first thing that happens is people tell you what a fool you were to get it, what are you going to do? What you are not going to do is pay any attention to what the person who's just rubbished your choice has to say. I remember investigating clubs back in the 80s when I was campaigning my Cherub reasonably seriously, and walking into the most local club to be told I should sell it and get a whatever. Of course I said very little and walked straight out again.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 23 at 6:36am
Exactly JimC.
Lack of respect for other peoples choices and opinions has been a major problem. eg. Laser bashing, probably the most commonly sailed dinghy in the country. 
Also absolutely having to be right and going on and on for pages, disagree and let it go.
I follow a FB group on "gravel biking" and that is kept thriving and happy by strict moderation of sneering and intolerance.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Apr 23 at 6:51am
I think even iGRFs worst trolling was nothing compared with the venomous posts that you see on some social media pages
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