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    Posted: 10 Mar 23 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by Old Timer

It is a shame; the traditional forum is far superior than a Facebook group IMHO; it builds up a library of discussions and can be easily searched and reviewed. You don't get any of that on Facebook.

The masses preferring FB is just more laziness for an easier but inferior platform for this type of specialist stuff.

I do think some moderation 10 years ago could have changed things to get rid of the obvious trolling but that is history now.  

Edit: Possibly a reflection of the sport too ...

Totally agree with all your points and as a person that got ‘ triggered’ more than most by the ‘ normal suspects’ over the years, I wish I had handled  things differently. 

But I don’t suppose it would have made much difference and as you said it’s all history now . 
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Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

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Originally posted by Chris_H

Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

The difference with FB is peoples identity is clear so that should hopefully stop some of the trolling as you can see who’s doing it. That said some of the problems this forum never addressed were not from an unknown member. Although I don’t think it was pure trolling just someone on a different parallel thought train. But some obvious baiting. 


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Originally posted by Chris_H

Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

True but you can just block them and the problem is solved Wink
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I don't see this as a 'failure of the forum' but far more a case that shows a  further maturing of the way we all communicate on line. Like many of you, I too have other interests and follow other forums and although it is always a dodgy move to generalise, my take on the trends is that what was exciting a decade ago, still worked maybe 5 years past but now is 'old hat' - there are better and more immediate ways to get your viewpoints across.

But don't be fooled into thinking that this is IT.....already some of the social media sites are going into a Closed status...which when you look at it is more like a forum unless you include the anything goes mentality over at SA.  If that's your thing then fine, but from what I see - trying to take that broader look across the piece, so many of the forums and social media sites are populated by yesterday's sailors - the really active ones of today are somewhere else yet again.

Of course, I'm speaking as one who has a dog in this fight! But as long as people keep liking the articles on the boats and people of yesteryear (spoiler alert - Hornets and Enterprise coming sometime soon) I can carry on worrying about the wood botherers for the foreseeable future. I do fear that when I hang up wetsuit, notebook and pencil to sail off into the sunset that the cause of some consideration (at the very least) for the wonderful heritage that underpins our sport will be weakened, but by then we'll all be sailing either roto-moulded lumps at one extreme or super-duper high tech flying machines at the other extreme and so no one will care!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Mar 23 at 6:21am
Yes to most of the above.
+1. It simply does not always function very well, throwing formatting all over the place and clouding any points you are trying to set out.
+2. Has anyone mastered putting up images? I've tried a few times and got part way through the process to be stalled before completion.
+3 As regards dinghies, which is what we are talking about, the parent magazine is hardly good value in paper form. 
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I used to post a lot, but a move from lots of racing to spending a lot of time teaching meant the relevance wasn't really there any more. Couple that with fewer threads and an angry feel, and I drifted away. No idea if I was part of the problem, as the "same old faces" argument came up a lot. But when the "same old faces" stopped posting, no one else took over.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 23 at 11:32am
Rupert... I think in one short phrase you've defined the whole issue!  You've 'moved on' - a situation that I think most of us on here can recognise and associate with. But it isn't just us as individuals that has moved on - I think the whole business of holding a position on a topic that you want to share/make public  has changed. Just why this should be is a complex and tricky issue and not one I'm even going to look at for now.

Maybe the bigger issue is 'what is the forum for?'  - what role did it play and now, should it play.

I can't answer that either...... maybe some on here might try, but I doubt if there will be any uniformity in the answers

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 23 at 11:50am
Decline appears to directly link to iGRF refusing to post, due to being censored. My opinion from statistical analysis, shows the amount of influence he had, not saying he didn't need censoring on somethings.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 23 at 11:51am
Could it have something to do with repeating the same discussions?

TBH I find the SA discussions more considered … accepting that there is also a lot of trolling there
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