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    Posted: 10 Mar 23 at 5:37pm
I don't see this as a 'failure of the forum' but far more a case that shows a  further maturing of the way we all communicate on line. Like many of you, I too have other interests and follow other forums and although it is always a dodgy move to generalise, my take on the trends is that what was exciting a decade ago, still worked maybe 5 years past but now is 'old hat' - there are better and more immediate ways to get your viewpoints across.

But don't be fooled into thinking that this is IT.....already some of the social media sites are going into a Closed status...which when you look at it is more like a forum unless you include the anything goes mentality over at SA.  If that's your thing then fine, but from what I see - trying to take that broader look across the piece, so many of the forums and social media sites are populated by yesterday's sailors - the really active ones of today are somewhere else yet again.

Of course, I'm speaking as one who has a dog in this fight! But as long as people keep liking the articles on the boats and people of yesteryear (spoiler alert - Hornets and Enterprise coming sometime soon) I can carry on worrying about the wood botherers for the foreseeable future. I do fear that when I hang up wetsuit, notebook and pencil to sail off into the sunset that the cause of some consideration (at the very least) for the wonderful heritage that underpins our sport will be weakened, but by then we'll all be sailing either roto-moulded lumps at one extreme or super-duper high tech flying machines at the other extreme and so no one will care!
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Originally posted by Chris_H

Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

True but you can just block them and the problem is solved Wink
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Originally posted by Chris_H

Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

The difference with FB is peoples identity is clear so that should hopefully stop some of the trolling as you can see who’s doing it. That said some of the problems this forum never addressed were not from an unknown member. Although I don’t think it was pure trolling just someone on a different parallel thought train. But some obvious baiting. 


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Oh dear. The Pin End FB group I have just joined, has one or 2 'trolls who spout their usual grievances'  I recognise from here.... Shame.

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Originally posted by Old Timer

It is a shame; the traditional forum is far superior than a Facebook group IMHO; it builds up a library of discussions and can be easily searched and reviewed. You don't get any of that on Facebook.

The masses preferring FB is just more laziness for an easier but inferior platform for this type of specialist stuff.

I do think some moderation 10 years ago could have changed things to get rid of the obvious trolling but that is history now.  

Edit: Possibly a reflection of the sport too ...

Totally agree with all your points and as a person that got ‘ triggered’ more than most by the ‘ normal suspects’ over the years, I wish I had handled  things differently. 

But I don’t suppose it would have made much difference and as you said it’s all history now . 
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It is a shame; the traditional forum is far superior than a Facebook group IMHO; it builds up a library of discussions and can be easily searched and reviewed. You don't get any of that on Facebook.

The masses preferring FB is just more laziness for an easier but inferior platform for this type of specialist stuff.

I do think some moderation 10 years ago could have changed things to get rid of the obvious trolling but that is history now.  

Edit: Possibly a reflection of the sport too ...


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Like H2, I only visit these days, but not post  This forum has long been extinct, and only frequented by the die-hards, trolls (we know who they are/were...), and some who dislike social media. Mark should put it out of its misery. I havnt posted for a while but my previous posts have long reckoned and forecast and recommended that the forum should be laid to rest. Some forums (the toxic SA) do manage to stay upright, but most have long since capsized. Life has moved on. How many new posts this year? - a handful. RIP. 
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From time to time whilst on a really boring conference call I check in on the forum and have a read if there is any new topics. I had been fairly active a few years back but found it to be rather unfriendly with a mix of trolls, some folks who had the same old mindset and no desire to engage / discuss / be flexible or a feeling that if you were not in the clique then you were just ignored. In the end people get bored of being ignored or abused so we just stop posting, stop showing up and here we are. RIP indeed.
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Maybe some smart IT person could write an app to synchronise forum chats to posts in a Facebook group so that either format would work.

For thioe that are not aware and who may be interested, someone recentlty started a new group on FB called The Pin End that is hoping to cover some of the ground this forum used to https://www.facebook.com/groups/703800177963531/
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