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    Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 1:26pm
I have liked the tracking at the events I have done. I have also looked at tracking for sailjuice events I didn't go to. And I regularly watch tracking from olympic classes. 

I regularly track my own via a smart watch, but having the other boats is interesting. I think it would be even more valuable in a class fleet race. Unfortunately we've never had it at a class event. It might not be a deal breaker on whether I go to an event, but all these little details will add to to whether an event gets inked in or pencilled in to next years calendar.  


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I'm sure you know mozzy but for the benefit of others RaceQs tracks boats from smart phones or smart watches of sailors who have signed up and displays them all in the same 'race'. Not real time I don't think but certainly available for a post race replay. I found it a bit clunky on my Garmin Vivoactive 3 (but everything is) but it seems to work pretty well on an iPhone.

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£50 for a 2 day event?! Sounds like a bargain. RS want £120 for a 2 day event down in Weymouth
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I always felt the sailjuice series took away from, rather than added enough value to the individual winter events … but hey, I’m used to holding a minority opinion and accept they’re still popular
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Did you go to the "Great Lake" events TT before they were taken over by sailjuice or is it just an observation from someone who never showed up anyway?
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

£50 for a 2 day event?! Sounds like a bargain. RS want £120 for a 2 day event down in Weymouth

Yeah... for the most part I don't believe entry fees are the big put off. Certainly if I believe it will goes to well deserving club.

But at £120 is questionable and it shows in the entries they have got. 

For the last few years entry for the 800s for 2-day opens seems to have hovered around £40-50. Which I think is pretty good value, split between two people. With 6 races that's about £5 pp/ph of entertainment. It's cheaper than a movie, or bowling, or most other form of entertainment. 

I reckon I would happily pay £30 a day, maybe up to £40 per day for a well run open event. 

For nationals I would have paid £65 per day this year (same event which is asking for £120 for 2 days of 200/400 racing). I am willing to pay a bit more for a nationals, but I am expecting a top notch race team and socials each night, plus a bit a food each day etc (Not seen any details about socials or after sailing snacks yet for the nationals and entry closes in two days... so I might be about to be disappointed). 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by H2

Did you go to the "Great Lake" events TT before they were taken over by sailjuice or is it just an observation from someone who never showed up anyway?


Some yes, before and after, … as I said, I don’t think it added anything

My favourite memory was the Grafham Grand Prix - that was a slick event
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Against the cost of a competitive racing dinghy £5k to £30k, accommodation, food and travel the entry fee is a bagatelle.  I am not sure that the overall costs are going to deter the serial open meeting attendee, increasingly their dinghies rarely grace their “home” club boat park, and the leading class associations are pursuing a model of a “major” open each month pitched at the sailors who are interested in this style of racing 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 6:36pm
That sounds like a good model - but it probably benefits from the critical mass of an established class, rather than some new kid on the block
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 7:33pm
There's a finite number of committed open-meeting junkies. If you want to get more people turning up, you need to encourage the people who are wavering. Sometimes there's people at a club a short drive away who might be persuaded. I've known youngsters borrow parents' boats to do events, the entry fee is the only cost apart from beer and a little petrol to go 20 miles down the coast. A £40 entry fee is a lot to someone on minimum wage or between college and work. Five years time you might be regretting that these people are not sailing in your class. I've seen cases of boats from the host club not racing because the entry fee and class membership tips people into not bothering. Even the busy classes like the Solo are not immune, 4 boats at Bala, how much was the entry fee and was it VFM?
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