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| Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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turnturtle 
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 Topic: Open MeetingsPosted: 28 Jun 22 at 2:47pm |
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I always felt the sailjuice series took away from, rather than added enough value to the individual winter events … but hey, I’m used to holding a minority opinion and accept they’re still popular
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ClubRacer
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 2:14pm |
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£50 for a 2 day event?! Sounds like a bargain. RS want £120 for a 2 day event down in Weymouth
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 2:02pm |
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I'm sure you know mozzy but for the benefit of others RaceQs tracks boats from smart phones or smart watches of sailors who have signed up and displays them all in the same 'race'. Not real time I don't think but certainly available for a post race replay. I found it a bit clunky on my Garmin Vivoactive 3 (but everything is) but it seems to work pretty well on an iPhone.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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Mozzy
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 1:26pm |
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I have liked the tracking at the events I have done. I have also looked at tracking for sailjuice events I didn't go to. And I regularly watch tracking from olympic classes.
I regularly track my own via a smart watch, but having the other boats is interesting. I think it would be even more valuable in a class fleet race. Unfortunately we've never had it at a class event. It might not be a deal breaker on whether I go to an event, but all these little details will add to to whether an event gets inked in or pencilled in to next years calendar. |
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The Q
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 12:15pm |
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I know tracking was considered for the 3 Rivers Race, but it would add about £50 per entry. Not fair on the competitors who would have no benefit.
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Still sailing in circles
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Do Different
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 11:48am |
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davidyacht. The voice of reason. To my mind sailing is an experience activity and not particularly shareable or watchable.
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RS400atC
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 11:26am |
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If the tracking is 'valued' by people not taking part in the event, let them pay for it, either directly, or by receiving adverts. Personally, I've found it a gross disappointment for a couple of events I've taken an interest in. It's no substitute for someone publishing a timely narrative of the day's racing. You add cost to something, don't be surprised if you get less buyers.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 9:11am |
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Sponsorship which was a few prize donations in return for a little recognition always seemed OK to me.
I questioned the value of tracking ages ago and got shot down as a luddite. Perhaps in a world where we are have got used to disclosing medical information to go to the cinema, this might be different.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 28 Jun 22 at 8:51am |
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I wonder how sponsorship and the benefits to sponsors stacks up, and whether they really do bring benefits to the competitors. At recent events I have had do plaster my spars and sails with graffiti in exchange for a load of water bottles that no doubt will feed the eco food chain with plastic granules in a millennia (I refused to take them).
I can see Simon’s case for trackers from a safety point of view (if this is really the case) but I am not sure that I would want to have a tracker in order to satisfy the deliverables to the sponsor, in reality sailing is a closed event between the entered competitors and this is part of the enjoyment. The moment you add outside money to the equation greed takes over and the competitors enjoyment becomes compromised. I think in many cases sponsorship is used to satisfy the event organisers delusions of grandeur.
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Happily living in the past
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Mozzy
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Welcome to the forum. Good choice of name
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