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rich96 
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 Topic: Open MeetingsPosted: 13 Jun 22 at 6:13pm |
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Sounds brilliant
Well done As I see - the ones that want to travel find a way and the ones who don't want to travel find a reason not to i.e - ' I should be at this event/that event etc but fuel's too much/roads too busy etc etc'. These ones never go anyway |
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 13 Jun 22 at 3:47pm |
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I've just arrived home from the Blaze Nationals, three days of racing, total expenses (excluding food and drink) £80 entry fee (including free class polo shirt with my number on it), £75 camp site fees (I could have stayed at the club but decided I wanted an electric hook up for 'comfort and convenience') and, even at approaching 40mpg, £120 for diesel, so fuel was significantly the biggest single expense. Will I do it again next year? Yes probably.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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rich96
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Posted: 10 Jun 22 at 10:50am |
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In my experience the people who go to open events still seem to be going
The fuel cost is an issue but is it really THE issue ?. On a typical round trip to an open the additional fuel cost isnt massive. Its definitely not prohibitive for local ish events There are of course (and always have been) a large number of sailors who will use any excuse not to to travel despite saying they'd love to if it were'nt for fuel, family etc etc etc
One day events are popular - no overnight accommodation to worry about, less grief from family etc Regularly you can get a fantastic day of sailing in (3- 4 races) and be home for dinner The Lasers have always done this and the Solos are now doing so Lots of classes hold a number of 1 dayers now. |
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turnturtle
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Posted: 10 Jun 22 at 8:33am |
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I once tried a season of just opens - sailing under the class association.
I went in to it with the best intention: less is more, guaranteed class racing, supporting the class etc. and it was pragmatic as one of my personal barriers to opens before that were the round trips to the SC to pack and pick up the boat - 3 hours minimum usually. I left thinking it could only work with a lot more free time and cash. If I ever whinged about club membership fees before that year, I never did afterwards.... they're a total bargain all things considered!
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 10 Jun 22 at 7:59am |
Totally agree with most of the points you have made especially about the FUN bit.. There are a few things where I have a different point of view. 1) Protesting. Sailing is a self policing sport and it’s a bit like voting , if you don’t do it you shouldnt complain about the outcome  and to tbh I’ve found even a failed protest is enough to rein in cheating at least for that event.2) Boasting about how much they have spent paying someone to do up their boat for them . Is this a vintage boat thing ? As I’ve never heard anyone do this at any event I’ve ever been to. 3) Two day events are great. The British moth class used to do quite a few of them 6 or 7 years ago and it was great have a chat and have a drink/food after sailing with out having to pack up and rush home. To start with they were very popular but got less so as the years rolled on to the extent there is only one in this year series ( and I think that has been changed to a one day event ) . I think for a lot of people they have become very time poor (as well as just poor ) and one day events can be shoe horned into peoples lives easier. It’s all about horses for courses and trying to understand what your class wants . Who would be a fixture’s secretary these days,
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patj
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Posted: 10 Jun 22 at 4:47am |
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For us, the most important thing is that meeting has to be worth going to - not full of selfish people pumping their way round the course and only interested in how much they've spent paying someone to do up their boat. Yes, we could protest, but can't film evidence and sail at the same time. So we vote with out feet and only travel to events we enjoy.
One day events aren't worth travelling for unless they are commutable from home. Some clubs arrange for visitors to join in with the club racing on the Sunday which can be fun. We normally make a weekend of it and travel on the Friday or even Thursday or extend it into a bit of a holiday and explore a different area. Clubs where you can stay in the camper in the car park are favourite because it keeps the cost down. Commercial campsite prices have just gone stupid since covid. And an organised social on Saturday night is part of the weekend - a communal order of pizzas or fish & chips, a barbeque or even a cheap cooked meal in the club along with a club bar or BYO beer. It doesn't have to be expensive but it does have to be friendly. Edited by patj - 10 Jun 22 at 4:48am |
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Paramedic
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Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 8:53pm |
I know, it doesn't matter for one journey a month does it? But classes that are dependant on people doing 200 mile round trips two/three times a month may need to remodel.
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 4:31pm |
I am not totally sure and I am sure others will correct me if I am wrong . But he crossed the line ( his post was vile ) once to often and mark put him on the naughty step and it looked like his posts had to be approved before they were posted . Then for some reason he stopped posting altogether. TBH it’s just nice to have a discussion with out the name calling
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 4:23pm |
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423zero
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Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 2:10pm |
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I always thought he was responsible for generating a lot of posts, but more people are posting now and more diverse people and less acrimony.
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