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    Posted: 03 Jun 22 at 6:01pm
Originally posted by NickA

Originally posted by Do Different

an investment in the future of the Club.


Too right! Convincing the management though...


It might be an investment, but not all investments offer a quantifiable return; esp in the age of Google (and the Y&Y club list map)
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For a long bank holiday weekend open, you are talking at least three hundred, even camping, but cheap if you enjoy it, even typing this is taking me back to one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 22 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by 423zero

For a long bank holiday weekend open, you are talking at least three hundred, even camping, but cheap if you enjoy it, even typing this is taking me back to one.


That's only true if you live miles from the event.
Many people have clubs with open events or potential for open events within driving distance.
Other people have accommodation options such as friends or relatives.
Back in the good old days, I recall members of the host clubs offering space for an airbed, free camping at several clubs, camping in member's gardens.
You can see how peole get value from their camper vans though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 8:25am
Only ever seen spare bedroom, back gardens and drives offered at CVRDA events, they are all over the country.
Pwllheli for instance from West Midlands, you are talking fifty pounds in fuel, more if you need to drive about. Camping going to be at least fifteen pounds per night. Food probably thirty pounds per the weekend, assuming organisers pick up lunch, then you may want to go for a meal somewhere, Wetherspoons have a pub in Pwllheli now, add another thirty pounds a night, good thing about Wetherspoons you know what you are going to get and no need to dress up.
Not forgetting beer or wine at the tent.
Then fees for the actual event.
Aberaeron yacht club in the early eighties used to cost a fortune, mainly on drinking, mainly remember it for monster hangovers and informal drink fueled races when normal racing had been abandoned,due to the weather.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 8:41am
Even if you skipped an Open Meeting, the chances are that you would spend more money in B&Q.  I suspect that iGRF would be pointing out what a load of tight a***s dinghy sailors are if he were able to post 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 9:01am
Plenty of people have a weekend away or a city break.  An open is no more expensive than that.  In fact you can do the Open on Saturday and explore Oxford/Cambridge/Bath/Birmingham on the Sunday.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 9:41am
I don't recall ever paying for accomodation in the years I spent doing circuits until I got old enough to need (and earning enough to afford) a full B&B. Sitting room floors, clubhouse floors, tents in dinghy parks, airbed in the back of the van...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 9:55am
Originally posted by davidyacht

Even if you skipped an Open Meeting, the chances are that you would spend more money in B&Q.  I suspect that iGRF would be pointing out what a load of tight a***s dinghy sailors are if he were able to post 

Theres some truth in this.

How often do we travel anyway? Most classes are reducing the number of events partly to try and increase quality, but also partly I suspect because clubs are being more choosy about what they close to members for. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 10:02am
The costs of a weekend away are much the same, if not more, in most of the 'growth' sports people keep comparing sailing to. Anyone who's mildly serious about cycling, athletics, whatever will bespending significant sums on travel. There  must be huge numbers of people in the UK spending upwards of £100 fairly often on weekends for their sport or hobby.
 
 
 But, is that any guide as to what people are prepared to spend to attend an open meeting when they've already invested in racing at their home club?  If people are not attending open meetings, is that due to cost? (quite likely for some young people perhaps??) or is it because the last few open meeting weekends they attended did not exactly fill them with the desire for more?  But this year, I suspect I'm not alone in not expecting to attend many/any open meetings because I'm too busy catching up other things which didn't happen over the last two years and haven't been able to plan my year around any sketchy class calendar that wasn't published in good time. Times are not 'normal'.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 22 at 10:10am
I think a dinghy racer seriously enough to open meetings is better compared to someone who does a lot of the UK amateur triathlon circuit.

I don't know what the costs of this are, but almost certainly a similar increase to that of going from pottering with the local cycling club both in terms of time, entry feed and equipment.

I agree wholeheartedly that times are not normal and this is why some classes are struggling a bit. Interesting some classes are thriving, but are working hard for it.

Is this a new normal? You'd hope that fuel prices will reduce and stabilise but a big part of me thinks that covid and Putin have accelerated what was going to happen post Brexit anyway and these costs may be here to stay.
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