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    Posted: 01 Jun 22 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by davidyacht


I have long been of the view that the most regular open meeting attendees tend to have less going on at home ... either where they sail or live.

alternatively, I’d have to get my hands dirty and incur all sorts of body damage helping with the outdoor-housekeeping. I hate gardening with a vengeance. An open meeting is far preferable, although the racing at the club is invariably pretty hot, regardless. I can’t be the only one…

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Originally posted by NickA

I think our overheads are too big.

They reckon £125 a day for use of ribs, then each volunteer ( RO, 2X aro, mark layers, safety boat) gets £40 knocked off their club fees.

The ribs are expensive as the club bought several nice new ones with huge engines. If we don't use the "duty levy" system of club fee reduction it's reckoned no one will do any duties.

Our club fees are expensive due to the club's 2/3 employees and a hefty rent to the lake owners (Severn Trent = grabbing barstewards with share holders to please) so a refund is nice to have.

NB: open fees now £40 for a double hander for two days. But I just paid £50 for the Bala long distance ( includes a cut to the 3rd party event organisers I suppose).


I totally understand your position now, even thought your position is completely different to a club like mine that’s totally volunteer based.  Smile


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Originally posted by fab100

 

alternatively, I’d have to get my hands dirty and incur all sorts of body damage helping with the outdoor-housekeeping. 

nope - not the only one.  When we made the permanent move to Spain everyone assumed we'd be getting the typical villa-with-pool combo.  Absolutely 100% NO THANKS... one way to add additional cost and frustration to outside space is to acquire a giant piss tank for other people's children.

We bought a city centre apartment instead - assuming they're not locked down by officious police with machine guns - then there's plenty of communal outside space and a massive effin' beach for kids to run around on!


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Post Options Post Options   Quote sargesail Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 22 at 7:19am
Originally posted by NickA

I think our overheads are too big.

They reckon £125 a day for use of ribs, then each volunteer ( RO, 2X aro, mark layers, safety boat) gets £40 knocked off their club fees.

The ribs are expensive as the club bought several nice new ones with huge engines. If we don't use the "duty levy" system of club fee reduction it's reckoned no one will do any duties.

Our club fees are expensive due to the club's 2/3 employees and a hefty rent to the lake owners (Severn Trent = grabbing barstewards with share holders to please) so a refund is nice to have.

NB: open fees now £40 for a double hander for two days. But I just paid £50 for the Bala long distance ( includes a cut to the 3rd party event organisers I suppose).


Ah so it’s about the charging regime! Not the actual operating costs/break even point.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Paramedic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 22 at 7:32am
I don't think that the model of using an open meeting to help keep club fees down is a terrible idea. Members organise and run the events, why shouldn't they see a benefit?
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precisely - it should be a verified income stream.  Esp when the getting people to actually do duties is a problem - that resource is precious and shouldn't be squandered on non-members.... it's not like those travelling 100 miles are likely to join, unless they just happen to move to the area at some point in the future.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 22 at 7:57am
BTW - impressed to see the numbers at the RS Aero Nationals ... excellent work given all the reasons in the world right now why we might not expect new classes to fair so well.

They've even introduced a new rig size by the looks of it... RS Aero 6
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 22 at 8:45am
Originally posted by turnturtle

BTW - impressed to see the numbers at the RS Aero Nationals ... excellent work given all the reasons in the world right now why we might not expect new classes to fair so well.

They've even introduced a new rig size by the looks of it... RS Aero 6

stand by for an 8 rig…
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Actually I thought the Aero numbers were a bit disappointingly low.  Four fleets and 101 boats… biggest fleet 44 boats. And not many women. I’m sure that will end up being one of the bigger gatherings of the year, and I’ve nothing against the boat but I’d have thought 250+ would be the aim for this group.  

Imagine if the Streaker, Supernova, Solo and phantom held a joint Nationals.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Alistair426 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 22 at 8:55am
I tend to agree that the present dinghy sailing demographic has a lot to do with falling attendances. Many, if not most, of us are getting quite long in the (few remaining) tooth and have 'been there, done that, worn the T-shirt' as far as trailing round the country and kipping in cars every other weekend is concerned. If, in reality, you are just going to make up the numbers the venue and craic have got to be so outstanding that the whole experience is enough of a treat to make you look forward to it for some weeks before. If the actual boat you are sailing is a bit of a 'chore' in anything other than ideal conditions, it makes it even less likely that you are going to travel, Add in the Windguru factor and clubs holding one-day opens (some of which now require paid pre-entry) are on to a hiding to nothing. The answer? Local circuits (decent sized catchment within 1 to 1.5hrs drive so hitch and go on the morning) with entry on the day, welcoming clubs and a sanguine attitude to poor attendances on the back of bad forecasts. Oh, yes.....and an influx of youngsters into dinghy sailing with the endless enthusiasm we had in our 20's and 30's. Two nights in Hotel Cortina, anyone?
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