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    Posted: 26 May 22 at 2:41pm
This is why my my club started a sailing school (all volunteers running it) about 15 years ago, we were getting very old and had practically no dinghies sailing. They started the school  and rapidly got up to 80 kids registered each season for the school.. It took a while, but they have now fed through to dinghy sailing on normal racing days, we've gained a few parents sailing and doing duties as well..

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I do wonder if part of the problem is the somewhat aging demographic in dinghy sailing. Its great when young people come into the sport, but my experience is that the many of the guys around the club are mid life or older, like myself. I used to do the circuit/nats etc in my younger days as it was good to sail on new waters and with people who were better than me, and was all part of trying to improve. However I'm now way past the point of trying to become the next Ben, and I get way more pleasure from sailing with my mates at the club. The thought of spending x hours travelling to a venue has zero appeal at this point in my life. Not sure what the answer is, other than stating the totally obvious that the sport needs new blood.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

My club just runs one open a year for the British moths and it’s been a very pleasurable experience.
It’s run on a Saturday so it doesn’t stop club racing , we always get plenty of volunteers to be RO/ do rescue/ galley etc. The club thinks of it as a club event to be enjoyed by all.
Re class membership it’s not a problem as it’s not a BM class requirement to be a member to do your home open . You only need to be a member to do others clubs opens and the nationals . 


that makes a lot of sense...  Thumbs Up
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The reason I've stayed with my club is the choice of courses.
Round the buoys on the river outside the club, round the buoys up on Black Horse Broad, or a down river to a pub and back..
If we have an open, those classes not involved, do one of the others, for instance we had a down river open on Sunday, the dinghies stayed at the club and went round the cans..
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My club just runs one open a year for the British moths and it’s been a very pleasurable experience.
It’s run on a Saturday so it doesn’t stop club racing , we always get plenty of volunteers to be RO/ do rescue/ galley etc. The club thinks of it as a club event to be enjoyed by all.
Re class membership it’s not a problem as it’s not a BM class requirement to be a member to do your home open . You only need to be a member to do others clubs opens and the nationals . 



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My club used to run Comet opens, but there were so many problems it was knocked on the head, more disputes than fun.

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I think it was circumvented by writing into the SIs in latter years - the attitude peeved a lot of us 'locals' off; and tbh, the quality of the racing wasn't all that.  We already had good class racing every Sunday and Wednesday, enough for me to think I didn't need to worry about doing DIY on that 1 day year just to double the numbers on the start line and exponentially increase the numbers ahead of me on the finish line.  LOL

I guess it comes down to whether we see a host club as a host and that we are guests, or whether we see them as a service provider to class event racing programmes?  


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Originally posted by turnturtle

You can tell a lot about the class ethos by helping out at one of their opens … the Solo Class were a pleasure to watch from the committee boat and help drag trollies around for; another very widely popular adult singlehander, far less so…. To the point where I used to actively avoid sailing in my own club’s open for that class after overhearing visitors/guests complaining that some local boats weren’t CA members


CA membership is a difficult point. It's required for open meetings. If you let some people off, but not others, some of those who do pay might rightly get upset. OTOH it's a barrier to people doing their first event. The option to join for the weekend works for some AIUI.
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You can tell a lot about the class ethos by helping out at one of their opens … the Solo Class were a pleasure to watch from the committee boat and help drag trollies around for; another very widely popular adult singlehander, far less so…. To the point where I used to actively avoid sailing in my own club’s open for that class after overhearing visitors/guests complaining that some local boats weren’t CA members

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When they’re good, they’re very, very good; but when they’re bad, they’re horrid!
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