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    Posted: 25 May 22 at 2:33pm
Also worth considering the roots of Yachts and Yachting ... back in the heyday Y&Y was firmly about racing.  It is fair to say that Yacht Racing was also well reported.  I purchased Y&Y for the Bob Fisher and Jack Knights columns, Straham Soanes profiles, race reports and the classifieds.  I think that there was scant mention of anything to do with cruising.
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

We could bat this one backwards and forwards ad nauseum Eric. I know what used to get discussed on here and by whom, it was more diverse in those two respects by a country mile and if you were here you know it.


An alternative way to put it is that we see things as we are not as they are. I was there, I don’t see it as you do. It is perhaps explained that once upon a time non-dinghy racer posters were 5% of 1000, but now they are 5% of50. So posts from them don’t pop up very regularly.
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Originally posted by sargesail

Originally posted by Sussex Lad

We could bat this one backwards and forwards ad nauseum Eric. I know what used to get discussed on here and by whom, it was more diverse in those two respects by a country mile and if you were here you know it.


An alternative way to put it is that we see things as we are not as they are. I was there, I don’t see it as you do. It is perhaps explained that once upon a time non-dinghy racer posters were 5% of 1000, but now they are 5% of50. So posts from them don’t pop up very regularly.


Very true. Subjectivity can make a fool of us all  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 22 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by davidyacht

Also worth considering the roots of Yachts and Yachting ... back in the heyday Y&Y was firmly about racing.  It is fair to say that Yacht Racing was also well reported.  I purchased Y&Y for the Bob Fisher and Jack Knights columns, Straham Soanes profiles, race reports and the classifieds.  I think that there was scant mention of anything to do with cruising.

I always read it back to front - highlighter circling the boats in the classifieds I wished I'd one day own, then Clubs and Classes - see if I could recognise a few names, or ideally find a write up of an event I was at.

Never bothered reading the keelboat sections... but some of the other articles were a good toilet reading pre-internet days as an alternative to Viz.
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

I think you have summed yourself up quite well tt,

Me I am just boring

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 22 at 4:32pm
Originally posted by davidyacht

Maybe this is the key point is that Handicap racing may be a more dip in and out of thing.

In my experience, yes.

Even in the actual racing... it's far more tempting to bin off a final lap when you don't care what the result is in failing breeze at the end of an evening race, or if you have time constraint to consider at the weekend.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 22 at 7:02pm
There is one thing for certain, you learn more about sailing, 'racing' than bimbling or blasting about, only going about to go up and down, (blasting would shake you up if you 'gybed about').  
Making a good course round buoys in a race.       
Beating to make a mark.     
Running, (surely the most frightening).
Gybeing, (another frightening event).   
No amount of bimbling will force all these events in the space of an hour, not forgetting all the boats around you doing the same thing, nope racing is far superior.


Edited by 423zero - 25 May 22 at 7:06pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 22 at 7:29pm
Conversely, you can learn things about 'sailing' the first time you cruise out of sight of land, or at night, which you will never encounter in a 1 hour race around a lake. The game of rounding a mark in a fleet of Lasers is one aspect of sailing, there are other equally fulfilling games like making an efficient passage around the tides of the Channel Islands. Being on port tack at the windward mark of a Merlin Open can feel like a safe warm place, compared to sailing into a busy port.
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Sounds like you need to get on your club committee Eric and make the changes you want!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Grumpycat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 May 22 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Grumpycat

I think you have summed yourself up quite well tt,

Me I am just boring

never a truer word said on this forum  Wink



LOL Sorry i didn’t answer earlier, to busy sailing and having a laugh with friends.
Base wind was 12mph gusting 22mph , finished 2nd and had a glass of wine afterwards. A very pleasant way to spend a Wednesday evening .  Smile
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