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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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OK, here's where I am, I am in a minority group in sailing, I live a fairly blameless life, I don't appreciate being told I need to change, don't think I do need to change.
My sailing is done in a 'Last of the summer wine' style, more fun and games than effing and blinding other sailors out of the way, I have been known to throw a wet sponge in curmudgeons direction. |
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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Let’s revisit this in 10 years time :) |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Absolutely take it at face value Sussex Lad - great posts; but these things have been said before in more affluent times and fallen on deaf ears.
With cost of living significantly increasing, the wealth divide getting greater and the cost of boats and ancillary sailing equipment seemingly outstripping inflation, the UK model for boat-owner racing clubs has inevitable contraction - which aren't great for diversity and accessibility
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fab100 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005 |
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This is an interesting discussion and I've so far only been lurking, with not much to add until now. I absolutely agree the great-god television is a bane in so many ways. But so far, I think we've missed a major barrier to entry; when it comes to club racing, particularly in dinghies, we've all got too good in a hugely skill's-based sport. (even you TT) Look at the photos from back in the 'heyday' - the clothing was crap, the sails were often awful (much of any Mirror fleet with the lowest-bidder Jeckells sails) and the majority were bumbling around, not flat, not trimmed, rig not tuned and with no idea what a wind shift or bend was. A beginner therefore had company. It's not like that anymore. Our club's Cadet and Tera fleets get more formal training in a season than an Olympian used to over a campaign, back when it was every amateur (or even "amateur") for himself. Sails are better, boats are better, clothing's better and some of us have had decades of practice getting better. Anyone starting from scratch, aged over 25 (say) is really going to struggle. Jumping on a bike, or a paddleboard does not require dinghy racing's diverse skill and knowledge sets in the same way. Ours being the ultimate sport is truly both a blessing and a curse. We can be as inclusive as Scandinavian convention on woke-ness, but in being inclusive we should surely recognise that it's a damn steep learning curve for anyone and everyone that starts from scratch. Annoyingly, I don't have a magic bullet for this (not even my book is the universal panacea, dammit). Even when we baby-boomers shuffle off, too many have passed the knowledge to the offspring. Perhaps the answer is a pitch simply that sailing is the ultimate sport, for life, and you need to get (your kids) in on the secret. And get Jo Rowling to shift her focus Arthur Ransome-wards.
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Sailing or Racing. Strikes me more than ever two distinctly different activities possibly attracting completely different mind sets and ambitions. What are you trying to sell, a sport or a pleasant in quite often relaxing pastime locations. Who are selling it to, competitive "Strava time" types or the mindfulness and well being set?
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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you can be both - given the mental health benefits of mountain biking, why not dinghy sailing? this was this weekend: ![]() Edited by turnturtle - 16 May 22 at 1:33pm |
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Nobody has told you you need to change. I suggested that a broader appeal to sailing might be an option. Others have disagreed so no change and that is fair enough. Had others agreed then some ideas would have had to change obviously. Maybe some perspectives would have changed but ultimately we dunno cos we didn't go there. Edited by Sussex Lad - 16 May 22 at 1:36pm |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I don't think she's the biggest role-model for the wokerati ... but hey, let's not go back there again.
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It might be a bit of a struggle to get a boat up there
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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