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    Posted: 19 Mar 22 at 11:43am
Originally posted by iGRF

But my current thinking is how to have another bash at that Fireblade/Hybrid and see if I can't devise some method of flying a symmetric spinnaker single handed (thinking maybe a dangly pole), now that would be cool on the lake, bye bye Lasers downwind.
 

in which case your best bet would be a twin pole system as used by Merlins and 505s  LOL


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Originally posted by fab100



]in which case your best bet would be a twin pole system as used by Merlins and 505s  LOL


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What about a self furling kite, bowsprit self retracting, sheet it similar to a jib, pull the sheet to the side you want, wind will do the rest. Uncleat when you have finished with it, furler needs to be strong enough to rewind.

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Have wondered about a single hander  with wings and a self tacking jib that you could pole out with a dangly pole, sort of skinny Hadron with wings, increased efficiency with the jib, that could sail dead down wind, more suited to restricted water sailing than an assymetric and less likely to land you in trouble than a spinnaker.  Jib could be transparent mylar for best visibility.
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Yes, that would work, big jib like the GP14.
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Troubles with a furling kite will be windage upwind, and judging by jibs, failure to furl properly, but yes, it does sound easier than dropping it over the bow. Seeing it Code Zero style.

Symmetric kite with a pole with an angle on it at the mast, that goes to both corners, sheet and guy. To gybe, you do nothing but adjust the sheets to a new setting. OK not worked out whether you'd need to be able to change the angle at the mast, or how to store it, but maybe I should experiment on the Mirror.

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Can’t it be semi-furled and used  as a jib upwind, then pull a string to extend the pole and unfurl the rest for downwind…
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Had in mind, twin dangly poles to both feet and was considering a battened head, the issue is with or without forestay, which would impact the delivery/recoveery system.
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