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    Posted: 20 Mar 22 at 6:16am
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Yes, that would work, big jib like the GP14.
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Have wondered about a single hander  with wings and a self tacking jib that you could pole out with a dangly pole, sort of skinny Hadron with wings, increased efficiency with the jib, that could sail dead down wind, more suited to restricted water sailing than an assymetric and less likely to land you in trouble than a spinnaker.  Jib could be transparent mylar for best visibility.
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What about a self furling kite, bowsprit self retracting, sheet it similar to a jib, pull the sheet to the side you want, wind will do the rest. Uncleat when you have finished with it, furler needs to be strong enough to rewind.

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Originally posted by fab100



]in which case your best bet would be a twin pole system as used by Merlins and 505s  LOL


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 22 at 12:02pm
IGrf . Yes before and sometimes between races, mostly by the power of dyneema, excess iron is so 20th century.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 22 at 11:43am
Originally posted by iGRF

But my current thinking is how to have another bash at that Fireblade/Hybrid and see if I can't devise some method of flying a symmetric spinnaker single handed (thinking maybe a dangly pole), now that would be cool on the lake, bye bye Lasers downwind.
 

in which case your best bet would be a twin pole system as used by Merlins and 505s  LOL


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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 22 at 11:00am
Originally posted by Do Different

iGRF I fail to see the reason for the excitement.  It still need a clevis pin at each end which apparently you find an anachronism from the early 20th century .  Staymasters do the same job for little more than half the money. 
Although I applaud your enthusiasm for innovation I find your philosophy confusing. On the one hand you detest the complication of dinghy rigging yet you seem to tend towards devising complicated solutions to problems which others do not even see as problems. 


Because my dinghy park must be littered with split rings and or clevis pins, those tunrbuckles can be connected with a conventional nut and bolt, or shackle, whereas chain plates (the work of satan) seem to defy reason when it comes to attachment.

Do you not need to adjust your rig on the water? Or even just before launching? The metal detectorists have a field day down at ours finding dropped clevis pins in the shingle..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 22 at 10:31am
Originally posted by 423zero

At least with unstayed rig, he can let the boom go right forward, presuming that's what he wants from space age rigging? Trade off being bendy mast, perhaps designers could concentrate their efforts on a mast that doesn't need standing rigging.


What like the literally hundreds of thousands of unstayed windsurfing masts that support sail sizes well up to the same levels as racing dinghys, then there was the D 1 of course, probably another PYAG victim, certainly a victim here, just like the Pornstar will be..

Oh and you're quite correct in my thinking of an unstayed mast preference, but that was before my foray into trapeze sailing, so strike a trapeze off the list and stays really become irrelevant unless you wish to employ some ridiculously oversize spinnaker. But my current thinking is how to have another bash at that Fireblade/Hybrid and see if I can't devise some method of flying a symmetric spinnaker single handed (thinking maybe a dangly pole), now that would be cool on the lake, bye bye Lasers downwind.


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At least with unstayed rig, he can let the boom go right forward, presuming that's what he wants from space age rigging? Trade off being bendy mast, perhaps designers could concentrate their efforts on a mast that doesn't need standing rigging.
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