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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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https://jimmygreen.com/bluewave-quick-race-tuning-turnbuckles/77963-bluewave-quick-tune-rigging-screw-toggle-and-swage
Perhaps the price puts people off.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I get that, same as if I'd sailed a 29er, but how come they haven't crossed class divides? Am I the only person that thinks this is strange? When I say strange, I'm thinking Midwich cuckoos strange. The longer you engage in this world the weirder it gets. ![]() Edited by iGRF - 18 Mar 22 at 8:14pm |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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If you are bored or sad, spend the evening working through the Pinnel and Bax website, or a Harken Catalogue or the Technical Marine Supplies website … lots of interesting gear and potential solutions, you don’t need to have a magazine to lead you there. Have a look at what the leading proponents in you class are doing. Boat bimbling is an important part of the activity … however experience suggests that opting for clevis pins or a fancy turnbuckle are well along the diminishing returns curve … and being able to adjust your standing rigging is all very well provided you know what needs to be achieved
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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'Turnbuckles' (the American expression) AKA (in the UK) 'bottlescrews' have been around in the dinghy world since the'50's to my certain knowledge. The fact is that modern 'vernier'* shroud adjusters are more than sufficiently adjustable for any rig and are much (very much) lighter and cheaper than 'turnbuckles'. Sure they are a less convenient to adjust on the water** but how often do you need to do that?..
* They're not... ** The 49er guys manage to adjust the shrouds on the water with a simple 'boat breaker'*** and the trap wire. *** A block and tackle and the means off attaching it to the shroud plates/eyes/u-bolts.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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iGRF I fail to see the reason for the excitement. It still need a clevis pin at each end which apparently you find an anachronism from the early 20th century . Staymasters do the same job for little more than half the money.
Although I applaud your enthusiasm for innovation I find your philosophy confusing. On the one hand you detest the complication of dinghy rigging yet you seem to tend towards devising complicated solutions to problems which others do not even see as problems.
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Add unstayed rig to the list
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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At least with unstayed rig, he can let the boom go right forward, presuming that's what he wants from space age rigging? Trade off being bendy mast, perhaps designers could concentrate their efforts on a mast that doesn't need standing rigging.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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What like the literally hundreds of thousands of unstayed windsurfing masts that support sail sizes well up to the same levels as racing dinghys, then there was the D 1 of course, probably another PYAG victim, certainly a victim here, just like the Pornstar will be.. Oh and you're quite correct in my thinking of an unstayed mast preference, but that was before my foray into trapeze sailing, so strike a trapeze off the list and stays really become irrelevant unless you wish to employ some ridiculously oversize spinnaker. But my current thinking is how to have another bash at that Fireblade/Hybrid and see if I can't devise some method of flying a symmetric spinnaker single handed (thinking maybe a dangly pole), now that would be cool on the lake, bye bye Lasers downwind. Edited by iGRF - 19 Mar 22 at 10:41am |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Because my dinghy park must be littered with split rings and or clevis pins, those tunrbuckles can be connected with a conventional nut and bolt, or shackle, whereas chain plates (the work of satan) seem to defy reason when it comes to attachment. Do you not need to adjust your rig on the water? Or even just before launching? The metal detectorists have a field day down at ours finding dropped clevis pins in the shingle.. |
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