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    Posted: 08 Mar 22 at 10:24am
We've had a sudden upsurge in Tasars, presumably because they're cheap, but they are also light, to deal with our beach recovery issues. I think we may have six or seven this coming season.
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Originally posted by The Q



My main club went down to almost no dinghies about 20 years ago , having had a big enterprise Fleet and a variety of other two man boats.
Then they started a sailing school, up to 80 kids on a Thursday afternoon / evening learning to sail.. All volunteer run, so very cheap to learn to sail..
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They learn in club Oppies .. single handed,
Move on to club toppers ..  single handed,
Buy their own Splash  or Laser single handed.
Very few have gone to two person boats. 
In the old days you learnt by crewing , then getting the offer to sail back to the club at the end of sailing, then sharing the helm then eventually you moved on to your own two man boat.
What's keeping the Keelboat fleet alive is adults coming back into sailing or coming to learn in the club Yeomans.




Maybe the club should buy some Fevas for the kids to sail in together? Might help in the long run.
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The Club does have two or three Fevas but they're not that popular with the kids, they almost always want to sail on their own..
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Club-owned boats may be the last vestige of two or three-handers at many a location where there isn't existing support for classes like FB, MR, N12, i14 or GP14's.  The demise of the Mirror as a ubiquitous youth / parent and kids boat is probably the biggest factor IMO that has gone on to hammer two-handers, that and the relative costs of sailing versus other leisure pursuits which many families now do instead or teens do them (SUP, kite boards etc) and Mum/Dad has an Aero
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Some people seem to assume that the trend for more singlehanders is automatically a Bad Thing.
Not convinced myself.

Also people forget that in Ye Olde Days, lots of people sailed Ents, Grads, N12, Firefly Mirror...etc etc singlehanded for pottering and club racing.
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Originally posted by JimC

Whilst I don't disagree with the premise that the Topper and Laser asymmetric boats were not very good, I think any hypotheses you come up with need to include the fact that Fireballs and 505s, once among the most popular classes in the country numerically, have similarly disappeared into the long grass and really nothing has replaced them. You can add the Laser 2 to the list too - once a very significant class worldwide and now more or less extinct with nothing apparently replacing it.

well observed, although I suspect the double-handedness of them all has a certain effect.

I guess the closest replacement to the L2 is the RS200... even the most committed of my mates who had them have finally given up when kids reached ages where they have a say in what's going on at the weekend.

Most of the kids don't want to sail too.... I wonder if there is a generational cycle where sailing (or any other pastime) struggles beyond three generations?
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