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Neil&theSea ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 21 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Thanks
That really helps It’s not just me that thinks “ it’s really, really, really” sensitive N |
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Like all boats a lot tends to be based upon your references, having sailed and got over the learning hump on some tricky boats I’d say the 200 is actually really quite docile and it’s sensitivity is really more down to longitudinal trim. As someone who’s possibly a little heavier than you that’s the problem I’ve found with mine is keeping weight forward especially if you are not hiking.
It’s summer, waters warm, stick with it and if things go wrong provided the crew doesn’t worry it’s not clear where the problem is.
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Trim problems in a short boat with the heavier person at the back and the cockpit divided by a centre mainsheet.... Hardly specific to the 200 I think! If anything, is the 200 too docile? A few rides in a 400 which gives more feedback might be good for learning? Or with the light crew, maybe consider one of the trap asy boats which are a little faster than the 200? Experiencing different boats is good, if you can do it without buying lots of boats better still!
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Gfinch ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 67 |
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Yes, but when I last sailed one it was a directly after some N12 sailing....
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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N12......all that work for so little forward progress.
![]() Thought the 200 was based on a 12. Designed by 12 sailor and previous 12 designer. They have much in common. ......anyway, it's a horses for courses thing. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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According to the PY data the RS200 is the most popular two handed class in the country, so they must be doing something right.
It is a fairly lively boat, which AIUI is why it gained the skeg during development to make it a bit less twitchy, but its clearly not in the same league of difficulty as high performance boats. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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A product from another time, when folk were conned into believing it's because they were bad sailors that a particular craft didn't work as it should. Happily that time has now past, thanks in part to the advent of people discussing things like this on the internet and refusing to be 'shamed' into believing they were not 'good enough' unless they spent every hour of every day practising, because this or that outrageously difficult craft needed very skilled handling. Fact is, sailing in the elements, learning the vaguaries of the wind, shifts, tides, currents, interboat tactics, is difficult and enjoyable enough (if you get it right) without some badly designed, in some cases over canvassed, un stable nightmare adding to the problem and removing the joy of sailing in strong wind. One day I think I'm going to compile a list of boats to avoid and you can trust me when I say the 200 will be right up there, my real problem however is finding any not to put on the list, every single one of them has its problems and you do need to put some effort in, to master any boats foibles. But some are more worth the effort than others. I wouldn't waste another hour on an RS200 unless you're set on class racing and have a very good crew. Edited by iGRF - 18 Aug 21 at 1:30pm |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
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Are the 2000 and RS200 the same boat?
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Gordon 1430 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Jun 17 Location: Lee on Solent Online Status: Offline Posts: 310 |
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very different. 2000 heavy solid underpowered good boat for novice and bandit in a blow.
RS200 Much lighter has massive following hence 120 boat nationals great team work boat. unsuitable for kent dinosaurs
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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I note the people who consider the RS200 "really quite docile" are experienced sailors with N12, RS300 and Musrto Skiff in their recent history, all of which are generally accepted as 'difficult to sail"...
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