Farr 3.7

Sadly it's a victim of a market driven by pond sailors, a corrupt handicap authority, by corrupt I mean broken as in the formula is corrupted by biased data, before I get accused of suggesting the committte members themselves accept brown envelopes.
I'm now also told that trapezing is beyond the aspirations of most sailors, though quite why I don't get, since it is far more comfortable than hiking, although yes a bit more awkward inland and in gusty conditions.
The Farr is a jolly little boat to sail, I enjoy mine, I just don't enjoy being pitted against a handicap of 1100 which is attributed to a boat that is faster in most of the condtions we sail on the sea, yet the Farr Handicap even allowing for the 1063 generously allocated by the Great Lakes mob is woefully inadequate for such a short boat in wave lengths that favour boats in excess of 14 feet.
The Farr also lacks critical mass so nobody gets to try one before buying, if they could there would be more out there and tbh it's not a market where there would be sufficient ROI to take the sort of risk of producing a fleet of demo boats. If it had the same set up, i.e. home build and manufacturer, the same rig, yet were 420 long, maybe it would gain traction, but as it stands it will remain a very small niche of home builders and eccentrics like me that won't be sheep, herded into classes of flawed crap.

Originally posted by iGRF Sadly it's a victim of a market driven by pond sailors, a corrupt handicap authority, by corrupt I mean broken as in the formula is corrupted by biased data, before I get accused of suggesting the committte members themselves accept brown envelopes. I'm now also told that trapezing is beyond the aspirations of most sailors, though quite why I don't get, since it is far more comfortable than hiking, although yes a bit more awkward inland and in gusty conditions. The Farr is a jolly little boat to sail, I enjoy mine, I just don't enjoy being pitted against a handicap of 1100 which is attributed to a boat that is faster in most of the condtions we sail on the sea, yet the Farr Handicap even allowing for the 1063 generously allocated by the Great Lakes mob is woefully inadequate for such a short boat in wave lengths that favour boats in excess of 14 feet. The Farr also lacks critical mass so nobody gets to try one before buying, if they could there would be more out there and tbh it's not a market where there would be sufficient ROI to take the sort of risk of producing a fleet of demo boats. If it had the same set up, i.e. home build and manufacturer, the same rig, yet were 420 long, maybe it would gain traction, but as it stands it will remain a very small niche of home builders and eccentrics like me that won't be sheep, herded into classes of flawed crap.

Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by eric_c There is very little upside in short boats now we can build longer ones which are not stupidly heavy Love to know the name of such a boat, I've never seen one. .....

Originally posted by Do Different They were also saying there are rumours of a smaller rigged Musto Skiff on the same lines as 49erFX. Could be interesting for lighter adults.

Such a boat exists but in Germany, Light skiff.de https://www.lightskiff.de/light-skiff-news.html but with a sail size of only 7.8, 3.98 long it seemed a tad to small to risk an import, that and the usual issues with the bitches at PYAG who would never contemplate a handicap of 1090 any more than they'd accept 1093 for the Farr 3.7 which is what the computer suggests is more accurate.

Edited by iGRF - 23 Jul 21 at 12:34pm

Originally posted by eric_c Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by Do Different They were also saying there are rumours of a smaller rigged Musto Skiff on the same lines as 49erFX. Could be interesting for lighter adults. Such a boat exists but in Germany, Light skiff.de https://www.lightskiff.de/light-skiff-news.html but with a sail size of only 7.8, 3.98 long it seemed a tad to small to risk an import, that and the usual issues with the bitches at PYAG who would never contemplate a handicap of 1090 ...... You seriously think it's about the same speed as a Vareo? I'd think the designer might be a little upset if people thought his boat was so slow.

Dunno, give me the specs for the Vareo I'll bung it through the spreadsheet, see what it says.

Edit, well having another harder look, yes, computer says Vareo 1071, Lite skiff 1088. Vareo is 4.25, 8.8sqmtr but heavy 93 kg, Lite skiff 3.98, 7.8sq.mtr & 60kg all up.

Edited by iGRF - 23 Jul 21 at 6:43pm