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Grumpycat 
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 Topic: Ovington LaserPosted: 21 Jul 21 at 5:32pm |
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It’s will only be a problem if LPE sell loads of boats .
And there is no sign of that .Lots of talk from them but no action. They are selling in tiny numbers even thought they are nearly giving them away . All successful boats need a good class association and there is no sign of LPEs ‘ laser class ‘ being anything other than words on a web page .
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Do Different
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 5:10pm |
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I agree Rupert.
Doesn't look pretty to me as an outsider, but then maybe it doesn't need to.
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Rupert
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 5:06pm |
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And RIP Bruce Kirby, designer of one of the best beach toys ever.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Rupert
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 5:04pm |
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The confusion certainly will come. After all, up to a certain date, my Laser would qualify as an ILCA? But past that date it won't?
What is the date? What happened to the numbering system? Am I relying on a small plate on the aft bulkhead? How do they differ? Can I sail my Laser in club racing? How about at my club Laser open? No? Then how come Fred can, my boat looks just like his? And why is it called an ILCA open when everyone is sailing Lasers? Not sure I'd buy into that mess. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 4:17pm |
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Very true , but like all boat buying unfortunately, it’s buyer beware .
But going by the first one I’ve seen for sale on the dinghy and dinghy bits for sale it might not be a big problem . It was clearly stated it was a laser and not a ILCA and everyone that asked about it, asked the right questions . But I still suspect someone wide boy/ girl will still still try it on somewhere a long the way. Tbh I don’t think the company (LPE ) is really interested in selling boats to individuals in this country . Not enough profit margin now they are no longer made in the uk .
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deadrock
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 1:12pm |
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All fine until said private buyer who wanted a very cheap boat attempts to sell it on as a class-legal boat. UKLA has taken steps to inform the junior feeder classes of the risk, but there will always be some kid's parent who knows better.
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 11:59am |
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It’s very sad . I spent many happy years sailing his simple boat first drawn on a napkin.
But it won’t make any difference to the ILCA situation, all the important decisions have been made and set in stone. The class is stronger than it been in years. All it means is he definitely won’t get the damages he won from LPE and associated companies which he was never doing to get anyway as Resgty has already made them bankrupt and closed them and all assets have been transferred to new companies. The class is healthy and have loads of new builders. LPE ( or what ever it’s call now) will continue sell boats to sailing schools/holiday centres and the odd private buyer who wants a very cheap boat . That’s the new reality.
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Late starter
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 9:00am |
Very sad to hear that, I look back on many happy years racing Mr Kirby's sailboat. Fair winds and following seas.
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Paramedic
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 6:33am |
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Sad, but unlikely to make any odds. It may even worsen the situation as the ex-builder will probably seek to sever what ties are left and the family will be wanting to maintain intellectual rights.
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423zero
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Posted: 21 Jul 21 at 6:09am |
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One part of the story has come to an end, Bruce Kirby has passed away, aged 92.
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