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    Posted: 04 Jun 21 at 10:49am
That does look interesting but the projected cost of £1p/l is almost certainly without our fuel duty added on. I suspect the tax free nature of green fuel will disappear once they need the money!

The other point here is what about diesel? My old VW can run on 100% bio diesel as is with no modification. My newer common rail car will not. The irony is that in the quest for ultra clean engines pretty much no modern cars can run on clean fuel.


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Originally posted by NickA

Octavia 1.4 TSI estate. Derby to Carnac with two Javelins, three bikes, lots of camping kit and three big blokes. No problem. Only got 30mpg tho. Those 1.4 engines are a bit gutless at low revs, but they'll do the job.


Thanks, that's the engine I'm looking at (150bhp version). 30 mpg with that sort of load isn't bad really, can't imagine the diesel would do better than 40.

Car shopping tomorrow 😁
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Originally posted by Jamie600

Originally posted by NickA

Octavia 1.4 TSI estate. Derby to Carnac with two Javelins, three bikes, lots of camping kit and three big blokes. No problem. Only got 30mpg tho. Those 1.4 engines are a bit gutless at low revs, but they'll do the job.


Thanks, that's the engine I'm looking at (150bhp version). 30 mpg with that sort of load isn't bad really, can't imagine the diesel would do better than 40.

Car shopping tomorrow 😁

The only thing that concerns me with those is longevity. Petrol engines are doing well to get to 200k miles, I cant see these high boost, low displacement engines getting to 150k especially if worked hard.

Time will be the judge of that one!


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I don't know if I'd worry too much about the longevity of boosted petrols.

We have a 20yr old Subaru WRX putting out 225hp from 2 litres with 130,000 on the clock............., oils, design and materials have probably advanced over that time as well.
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If you can possibly wait to change, I would do so.

With Covid and huge delays on electronic components most factories are running on 4 months plus delivery. My local Volvo dealer has been told by Volvo that they cannot sell the display cars in the showroom- forward orders only!

Used cars prices are at an all time high with huge increases recently because new cars are not available. Your car will get a good price but it won't cover the higher purchase price

I am waiting till next year
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I'd wait if I could but my current car really isn't fit for purpose anymore due to the amount of gear we are now having to cart round, and is likely to need big work come MOT time.
I've noticed the increase in used prices but managed to get a very generous discount via CarWow, so a new one is cheaper than a two year old one, as long as I don't mind the lead time.
I found the dealers would only sell me UK stock, at full RRP, they were not taking forward orders at all.

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Originally posted by Jamie600

I'd wait if I could but my current car really isn't fit for purpose anymore due to the amount of gear we are now having to cart round, and is likely to need big work come MOT time.
I've noticed the increase in used prices but managed to get a very generous discount via CarWow, so a new one is cheaper than a two year old one, as long as I don't mind the lead time.
I found the dealers would only sell me UK stock, at full RRP, they were not taking forward orders at all.


Glad you are sorted. I wanted to find an excuse to change myself - and failed!

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I changed this weekend from my old Ford Galaxy to a used Petrol Audi A4 estate; I test drove the new breed of EVs and decided I will wait a few more years - they do not (yet) tick enough boxes at a sensible price point and the charging infrastructure is lagging behind where it needs to be IMO.

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