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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Don't think I judged him in my post. The RNLI didn't judge him, at least not publicly. The media did though
![]() As I remember his partner wasn't too happy about it either. And was he good enough to go out in this? Clearly not. Edited by Sussex Lad - 26 Mar 21 at 7:32pm |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Saw the story. He wasn't "washed up", he followed the plan he had in place if something went wrong. And he sounded amazed that the RNLI would go and look for him in that weather.
Still a very daft thing to do, even for someone who has travelled the world surfing. |
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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This was featured on a RNLI program I saw on the TV - the surfer was a bit sheepish but not as apologetic as I imagined someone that had done this should be!
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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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Think the crews volunteered for the service because going out to save folk appeals to them. They all seem to enjoy a "shout" and an excuse to get out on the sea in an all singing modern lifeboat.
......and.... .....it's not an infinite resource. Too many shouts and the service would struggle. As somebody earlier said, best not to consider them your own personal safety boat. We had a surfer last year who jumped off Hastings Harbour Arm in a severe gale, it may have even been storm force. Needless to say it went pair shaped and he got washed out to sea. It was seriously rough. Hastings lifeboat couldn't find him though, they came back at a lower tide so the harbour didn't protect them from the shore break. (it's a beach launching station). Trying to drive the boat up the beach to come home fouled the jets with a mixture of sand and shingle that had been stirred up by the breakers....loss of power. They tried it a couple of times and then got caught in the very severe breakers turning round for another go. It didn't turtle but it went over 90 degs in the serious, serious surf. They gave up and sailed into the weather for 20 odd miles and parked it in Eastbourne Harbour for the night. The surfer finally got washed up on Winchelsea beach, several miles away. Exhausted but unrepentant. The RNLI didn't comment on him personally. They just said they will rescue anyone who requires it. The media on the other hand ripped him to shreds. Edited by Sussex Lad - 26 Mar 21 at 3:36pm |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Still pushing the myth, that RNLI would give you the 'Look', people wouldn't hesitate to phone for fire or ambulance.
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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The Lifeboat and Crew are an integral part of out community and our club (they are all honorary members). I would be grateful for any assistance they might offer, but I am not sure that I could look any of them in the eye after a rescue if I had not taken all possible risk mitigating actions. I think risk mitigation is the key point ... going out to sea on your own in marginal conditions might be regarded as foolhardy imo.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Not censuring people is not the same as being happy about risking their lives in avoidable situations.
I've been helped by the RNLI, back in 1984. Very glad they were there. Would I go out thinking "it's ok, the RNLI are there as back up"? No. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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RNLI, deliberately take the attitude of not censuring people they rescue, they don't want people to hesitate in seeking help, the quicker you seek help, the easier the rescue is.
They have the same policy regarding salvage, regardless of how long the tow or rescue. They were criticised recently for refusing to tow an unmanned boat off the beach, reason being there was no one in danger. |
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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Paramedic. I was generally adding to the discussion rather than replying to yourself. The RNLI do a fantastic job that is now completely different to the job it was fifty years ago and thought they are 100% professional it must take great strength not to give people a good lesson. The good nature of volunteers should not be a consideration when deciding whether it is safe to go out.
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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I don't have a problem with sailing without cover having mitigated the risk which something I think we will all have done at some point. I have a large problem with the bit I quoted. It makes the rest of what the posted irrelevant if the initial statement is any part of his decision making process before he goes out. Sorry, its just an irresponsible thing to say.
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