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    Posted: 22 Mar 21 at 5:22pm
Originally posted by Gordon 1430

Your scenario works fine until someone needs help. unlikely yesterday I admit, but another time quite possible. 
I thought your boat for boat race against the 2 Europes and Oppies looked a little unfair, although Steve and Sarah could have given you a run for your money
Wile clubs are very much needed. Would it be so bad if people had to do there own risk assessment 
knowing if it went wrong they were on there own?  
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They wouldn't be on their own, a passer-by would phone 999,RNLI volunteers would jump up from whatever they were doing, dash to station and rescue them.
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As a regular viewer of Saving Lives at Sea, seems like a lot of people going out in Kayaks, SUPs, Windsurfers, Kite Surfers and Sailing Dinghies pay scant regard to risk assessment or putting their own rescue back up in place 
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I'm saddened but not surprised that there are people out there willing to reap the benefits of others paying club fees and volunteering their time to run clubs and organise events whilst they choose not too.

 
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All very well for the experienced to follow this route and not for me to judge.

However, to abandon the Club infrastructure does deprive juniors and beginners of your accumulated wisdom. 
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TBF to H2 he did say a few posts up thread that "The only argument that sticks for me is that we need clubs to host opens and championships and without volunteers these will fail and for that reason I will remain a member!"
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Originally posted by Do Different

All very well for the experienced to follow this route and not for me to judge.

However, to abandon the Club infrastructure does deprive juniors and beginners of your accumulated wisdom. 


Indeed. The club infrastructure also provides a convenient boat park, access to the water, winches or a hard, changing rooms, showers in normal times and nosh as well as the chance to chew the fat with friends. Mind you, folks needs for socialising are very individual, varying from the miserable bu**ers Wink to the very gregarious.

Local authorities in my area discourage boat access to the beach so I could only sail off piste by travelling while on hols.....bit of a faff but I'm happy to do it once a year with a gang down in Chi Harbour (although that's not really off piste). There again, folks needs to take risks varies enormously also. Understandably the population is generally becoming more risk averse. As a rule of thumb people feeling less secure and more anxious in every day life  are less willing to put themselves into potentially risky situations during their leisure time.

....lot to be said for Bewl type venues also if wanting to escape the inevitable socialising and politics of club membership




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Originally posted by Do Different

All very well for the experienced to follow this route and not for me to judge.

However, to abandon the Club infrastructure does deprive juniors and beginners of your accumulated wisdom. 

On Sunday just gone we had three oppies in our group that were racing with us. They are all pretty good and kids of sailors that you would probably have heard of, but we were teaching the next generation to race too. Sorry to disappoint.
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Originally posted by Gordon 1430

Your scenario works fine until someone needs help. unlikely yesterday I admit, but another time quite possible. 
I thought your boat for boat race against the 2 Europes and Oppies looked a little unfair, although Steve and Sarah could have given you a run for your money

Yeah realistically it was three little fleets - H2s, Europe and Oppies and we set off with a bit of an offset but really we were boat on boat. Agree last Sunday was ideal conditions - the weekend before I was out too in F5 through 7 according to Bramblemet, was less hospitable.
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Our Club is our home-from-home. Our friends are there, our son was brought up there, many f our best memories were there. Can't imagine why anyone would ditch the club scene to just go sailing off a pubic slipway or somewhere like Bewl. Each to their own I guess, but if it wasn't for our home club, well I'd probably not be sailing now.
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