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    Posted: 24 Jan 21 at 7:40pm
They are perfectly entitled to bear away in an attempt to gain some distance as they are ROW boat (as long as they give Ineos time to keep clear which they did)


The luffing earlier in the race was a little tougher to call from the camera angles we saw but at one point it looked pretty close to Ineos not keeping clear. You can see at the start when Ben went to swap sides, had Jimmy kept going up they would have had them banged to rights as Scott wouldn't have been able to see them clearly from where he was on the starboard wheel and not kept clear. 

Later in the race was also marginal 2:22:20 in the link below. LR luffed and ben was a good 3 seconds off responding which in my opinion was a little slow. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8--jRxcXgM&ab_channel=America%27sCup

Don't forget this is match racing. The whole aim is to finish ahead of your opponent and it has always been a key strategy to force them into a foul to get some distance between them, Jimmy isn't doing anything which we've not seen in every Americas cup already 



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LR have tried at least 3 protests by waving their bow towards the windward boat. They were all called no foul and really looked highly speculative and I would almost think worth a rule 2 fair sailing counter protest. I thought the bear away protest was in the same league, manufactured and couldn't have hit him if he tried
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So simple port / starboard but with a requirement to give safety room rather than just not hit.

seems Luna Rossa did their best to force a penalty by bearing off, but if they'd not borne away, then they'd have passed further behind Brittania and if they'd borne off more would have slowed down and still passed behind Brittania.  That "avoiding" swerve at the end was surely theatrical.  I'm with the judges on this one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ClubRacer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 21 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Explains the rule apparently breached, to do with safety zones.

In my opinion the closest points of contact had Prada not luffed at the last minute would have been Ineos Transom to Prada port side foil. This would mean they would have had to have been within 2 meters of Ineos to get a penalty. To me they looked miles off of that. 
 




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Originally posted by PeterG

Protestor disagrees with their protest being rejected shock!

Not sure I'd attach too much significance to Spithill disagreeing with the result.

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Explains the rule apparently breached, to do with safety zones.
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Protestor disagrees with their protest being rejected shock!

Not sure I'd attach too much significance to Spithill disagreeing with the result.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-luna-rossas-jimmy-spithill-questions-umpires-call-in-prada-cup-loss-to-ineos-team-uk/OYMYFWEM2LKTXSL7NLGZBCTNOM/
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Grumpycat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 21 at 3:25pm
Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Originally posted by 423zero

Y&Y has a better average and substantially more sense per post.

Definitely  Thumbs Up quantity is no guarantee of quality.

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From what I've seen of the replay, there is 10 seconds between the initial bear away onboard Prada to Ineos crossing. Which should be ample of time, and means the bear away was legal.

Smart move by Jimmy to use all his speed to soak and get some really good VMG for a short period at the end there. Looks like it was timed well too. It just wasn't enough to get within a decent distance of Ben


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