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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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Paper and pencil not going to crash, flags not going to be 'someone forgot to put them on charge', far less to go wrong. Mobile signal crap at my club, WiFi long way from water.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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True but, TBF, you don't need wifi or mobile signal to use RaceQs or Strava... |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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I was trying to flick a 'paper drawing' at work the other day, was thinking of turning it off and on
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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What about those pencils where the lead is broken all the way down? Can’t sharpen those dam things though
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polc1410 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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Although if you use a stop watch - it wouldn't be the first time someone accidentally stopped it. And I've certainly had more than a couple of occasions where the results sheet for a handicap race has been submitted for me to do results with places and no times. I've also had the situation where the same boat finished twice... Did it go back through the line? Was it 252 and 525 with those annoying digital sail numbers. And if it was which one was which... I don't think lack of signal is a major problem. You can have a race must be uploaded by X hours after a club race. |
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polc1410 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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But that should then be divided by total racers. Not total members. Why is the cruising member, the guy who dedicates every weekend to RYA Level 1 instruction or the wife who is in the galley (excuse the blatant stereotyping) - none of whom get any benefit. |
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polc1410 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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What do you back up the paper system with. 2 people. 3 people. Dictaphone.
I agree DSRC is decent. Takes a bit of getting to know. I've had the results sheet blew away in the wind, dropped in water.. so even paper isn't perfect.
You are doing it wrong ;-) So firstly - hoot through Bluetooth speaker or wifi relay. So the only job left would be pulling up a flag. That's 1 man work. Even without DSRC we can 1 man run a race start as long as calling the line is not too stressful. Use a clock with seconds on it rather than a stop watch. (Or set watch going 1 minute early). I prefer a radio controlled clock... Worst case scenario if the clock dies the time is still a known time. (Start on the minute) With a manual horn, we can hoist a flag either with a slip not keeping it rolled so horn with left hand, tug slip knot with right. Or if the flag gantry is low, just hold it with hand... Sailors quite like the hand being up holding it rolled, as it signals that a signal is about to happen... Flag drop by gravity. Undo the cleat. Hold halyard in hand. Release when hoot |
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polc1410 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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Can't help but think there could be an improved PY method here too... Gather data that could pull in wind speed, sea state data etc, can probably work out if capsized etc.
But perhaps the answer is to relax SIs to permit carrying a phone for tracking either with or without allowing use for Comms. Encouraging a single app so can compare race. Possibly with some race feedback... 'john do you know about the 9 of diamonds?' 'everyone on the starboard end of the line did lousy..' Yes you may know that from the race. But you might not. J don't often know what others did, I'm lucky if I know what I did!! If 70% were using a tracker then pushing the other 30% becomes easier... If you look at something like Parkrun... They don't use an app. They could. But 10 years ago they couldn't. Nowadays plenty of people taking up running might start with a phone and migrate to a Garmin watch... |
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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Exactly - GPS data can help enormously with calculating PY, with so much data and the ability to drill down to leg times etc, potential to produce a far more representative handicap
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Forum Rule, no mention of handicap unfairness during the Christmas Ceasefire
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