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H2 
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 Topic: New BritanniaPosted: 18 Dec 20 at 11:59am |
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Super boring IMO. The difference in speed is so huge if one boat makes a mistake that the winner is a leg or two ahead. Its just a drag race with a penalty for making a boat handling mistake, its not match racing. How do you do pre-start tactics at 50 knots?
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423zero
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 12:30pm |
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Chris_H
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 1:49pm |
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Perhaps you missed the match racing, excitement and pre-start manouevres from Day 2? Plenty here in this video.... Sure, the dial-ups are different, but plenty of cat and mouse and bluffs. There were plenty of speed differentials in the old lead mines. Even 1knt difference in a lead mine meant an entire leg trying to catchup. Bit like waiting for a truck going up a hill trying to overtake another on the M40 ;-).
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rich96
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 2:09pm |
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Its become so far removed from the sailing that most of us relate to
The sheets don't get eased even ! |
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H2
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 2:47pm |
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Day 2 was better I agree, but most University match racing competitions would be more interesting to watch. Dont get me wrong, I am happy that the AC is happening but it is not really match racing anymore. We are not going to see a tacking or gybing duel, no-one is going to tack on a shift, there will be zero places won or lost at a mark rounding. For me its a very spectacular drag race and boat handling exhibition....but it is not match racing
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Rupert
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 3:25pm |
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To be fair, we did see an overlap gained at a mark in NZ v Oracle. And a couple of pre start doors slamming. But that's all, compared to ultra close battles almost every race on the match racing tour.
They have gone down this speed is everything cul de sac. Has it produced more interest/viewers? It certainly won't make people take up sailing. As for the grumpy, argumentative uk press conferences... compared to the Vendee globe teams and skippers who are a proper community, it just seems pretty and a bit sh*t. |
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Chris_H
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 3:28pm |
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I remember the even grumpier and accusations of cheating at the Dennis Connor press conferences ... ;-)
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 4:38pm |
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Yup, I agree.
That said I'm quite enjoying watching it, (first to races so far) but can see it becoming a bit tedious after a while. |
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Chris_H
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 5:30pm |
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Eee ba gum. When I were a lad and sailing my wooden bath tub, when sailing was a mans job, and I served 25 years before the mast, we looked on those new fangled J-class yachts and wondered how they sailed upright with so much sail. And fast? Fair near turned my head. No man should go as fast as that in a sailing boat. How do they drink their tea? Them J's should be banned.
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Do Different
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Posted: 18 Dec 20 at 5:35pm |
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What did they say, 49knots recorded in 12knots of breeze, that is undeniably a hugely impressive display of efficiency and performance.
Why do some say it's boring then? F1 cars touch 200mph on straights and generate 5G under braking and cornering, again crazy numbers but to a distant spectator largely meaningless. Sometimes also said to be boring and processional, a criticism seldom levelled a British Touring Cars. There is a contradiction in that fast boats often look slow (Cats & Foilers) but slow boats look fast (most things semi planing in sea and breeze). Edit add. How much wind and sea will these present boats race in? Edited by Do Different - 18 Dec 20 at 5:44pm |
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