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    Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 3:45pm
I can arrive already changed, take my dinghy out of our clubs dinghy park, launch from the public slipway, go sailing, put it back and travel home again without getting near anybody else at all. Risk of me catching or transmitting covid, virtually nil. So why shut the dinghy park and stop me getting my dinghy?

Sure I can go for a jog or walk or cycle but that's boring and not a patch on a good sail.

As for it only being a few weeks, well the Govt isn't extending furlough for 3 months without reason and when the lockdown eventually ends and the cycle starts again and we end up back in lockdown what then, back to square one.
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Hopefully the mass testing experiment in Liverpool will help. The furlough scheme seems expensive, but if people were laid off it wouldn't cost much less, plus companies can retain their staff,with all the benefits of people you know and already experienced.
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Originally posted by bluefish

I can arrive already changed, take my dinghy out of our clubs dinghy park, launch from the public slipway, go sailing, put it back and travel home again without getting near anybody else at all. Risk of me catching or transmitting covid, virtually nil. So why shut the dinghy park and stop me getting my dinghy?

Sure I can go for a jog or walk or cycle but that's boring and not a patch on a good sail.

As for it only being a few weeks, well the Govt isn't extending furlough for 3 months without reason and when the lockdown eventually ends and the cycle starts again and we end up back in lockdown what then, back to square one.

That’s your boat park, what about the next sailing club, or the one after that which may not be able to give that sort of access. That’s what I’m alluding to. If too difficult to differentiate between venues, hence why they are all shut. 

All the shut down is for is to buy time for the vaccine, should it happen and to prevent the nhs from becoming overrun with COVID cases. 
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Originally posted by maxibuddah

Probably because it’s easier to close a whole venue than it is to go through the nuances of what can be open at a venue and what can’t. How would they differentiate between a club where there isn’t a lot of space creating a pinch point and those where it wouldn’t be an issue. Im of the opinion that this has to be done with a broad brush to keep it simple.

But they haven't kept it simple have they or we wouldn't be having this discussion?

Hopefully it isn’t going to be a long lockdown so let’s do our part by staying at home and sitting it out, except for going for a walk each day.

Agreed and no argument about acting responsibly and toeing the line. I'll be cycling a bit more often and the dog will get longer walks so he'll be happy... I doubt I'll travel to the coast to sail even though Sport England suggests it's ok for me to do so.
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There's some people here with remarkable knowledge of where and how people are getting infected. I don't know that the Sage committee has quite such in depth knowledge.
Incidentally there's at least one sailor on the Sage committee, and she has a very impressive sailing CV.
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Wow ... had a look to find the sailor ... 86 people on the Sage committee, no wonder the media can find a Sage committee member to share their point of view, and that it is before they get to the sub committees!
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Posts: 3400 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 20 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by JimC

There's some people here with remarkable knowledge of where and how people are getting infected.  

TBF it's well documented that C19 spreads through people gathering in groups and is much more likely indoors so it's not entirely unreasonable to suggest that there's probably not much of it happening while sailing. Preventing people gathering is the key point and I don't see how encouraging people to sail from public slipways but not their private members club makes any sense.


Edited by Sam.Spoons - 06 Nov 20 at 7:15pm
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https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIraWLkNTu7AIVzLHtCh0KvQ49EAAYASACEgIHMfD_BwE
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https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4#:~:text=Children%20are%20important%20drivers%20of,age%20group%20are%20low.
I must apologise to the group, children do drive the flu, but apparently not covid.
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