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    Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 7:59pm
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Lots of fishing clubs lease the fishing rights rather than the land. As many fishing clubs are on rivers and in country parks they are public open spaces.
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Good thinking -  I'm going to trail a mackerel line from the back of boat - job done
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Originally posted by bluefish

Originally posted by Rupert



Are many non essential shops opening for click and collect? The one I work for has decided to do home delivery only.

As for exercise, there are many other forms which don't need a boat.

Yes, for example I could pop to Curry's right now if I wanted and pick up a new toaster and I'm allowed to go sailing, just for some strange reason I can't collect my dinghy from the park.


no you can't, strictly click and collect  or dropping off  repairs and returns in England , Welsh store are closed until their firebreak  ends .. 
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Yes I can, Click and collect is allowed in England:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/new-national-restrictions-from-5-november

I don't know about Wales, I don't live in Wales...
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Blue fish, I can see it makes no sense, but if one takes the view that Lockdown is necessary (I do, but you may not, which would influence opinion) then it isn't that it's crazy you can't go sailing but can pick up a toaster, but that you are allowed to pick up a toaster. Adding a trip to the sailing club, golf club, wherever club for everybody just adds to the craziness.
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Originally posted by Rupert

Blue fish, I can see it makes no sense, but if one takes the view that Lockdown is necessary (I do, but you may not, which would influence opinion) then it isn't that it's crazy you can't go sailing but can pick up a toaster, but that you are allowed to pick up a toaster. Adding a trip to the sailing club, golf club, wherever club for everybody just adds to the craziness.

I couldn't say whether lockdown is necessary or not, I don't know enough about the virus to decide, I just go along with what I'm told by those in charge, even though some of them can't seem to stick to their own rules but that's a different subject. 

Thing is the Govt is encouraging us to exercise as much as we like and visit outdoor public spaces, so why does the RYA decide to advise clubs to close dinghy parks?  Does not make sense, I can drive to the park and walk with another adult from a different household but I can't go into the dinghy park by myself and take my dinghy out for a sail. I'm not asking to go into the club house I just want to go into an open space to collect my dinghy and sail.
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The furlough scheme is now extended until the end of March. The writing is on the wall folks. If you want to maintain or improve the current 50/50 chance of having a sailing season next year everyone needs to toe the line now, and in the almost inevitable lockdown 3.0 in February.

Sailjuice and all winter class events should be cancelled, and the RYA should be pushing this.

This is a low point, hopefully the lowest. But if we haven't got this under control by the beginning of next year we not be having a sailing season for the second year running and the damage to our sport will be far, far greater than losing 4 weeks time in the boat now, major travelling events now and another 4 weeks time in the boat in feb if it comes to it.

This is a long game people, and we all need to do our bit :)
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Toasters and the like need to be sold, folks livelihoods depend on it. I can do other stuff for exercise.
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Toasters and the like need to be sold, folks livelihoods depend on it. I can do other stuff for exercise.


Toasters can be delivered (still means people out there delivering of course) so is collection a necessity?
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Originally posted by Paramedic

The furlough scheme is now extended until the end of March. The writing is on the wall folks. If you want to maintain or improve the current 50/50 chance of having a sailing season next year everyone needs to toe the line now, and in the almost inevitable lockdown 3.0 in February.

Sailjuice and all winter class events should be cancelled, and the RYA should be pushing this.

This is a low point, hopefully the lowest. But if we haven't got this under control by the beginning of next year we not be having a sailing season for the second year running and the damage to our sport will be far, far greater than losing 4 weeks time in the boat now, major travelling events now and another 4 weeks time in the boat in feb if it comes to it.

This is a long game people, and we all need to do our bit :)
I think lockdown is needed, and will save lives over December- January. But, it's not really a solution, or way of getting thing under control long term (out past a couple of months). 

I certainly don't feel it is in anyway linked to next years sailing season. 

Many classes were able to get up and running in the second half of the summer. Realistically, we could have been doing racing and open events in May and it wouldn't have made the blind bit of difference. We just needed time to test the water, and prove the mitigation. Once the weather improves, there is nothing to stop us picking up where we were in September at the start of the 2021 season. 
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Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Toasters and the like need to be sold, folks livelihoods depend on it. I can do other stuff for exercise.


Toasters can be delivered (still means people out there delivering of course) so is collection a necessity?


Ideally regarding virus transmission, and I'm no expert I don't reckon it makes much difference. Person meets person, hands over toaster. The extra cost of delivering all and sundry might nibble into profit or increase cost to consumer. Either way travelling to pick up a toaster helps the economy, going to a sports club not so much.

That aside. If we're talking about necessity perhaps a decent test and trace strategy might have made this whole issue less of a pain in the arse.
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