| Free mast for Merlin Rocket - has a bend! Guildford  | 
![]()  | 
| Bruce Roberts classic 45  Valencia, Spain  | 
![]()  | 
| Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux  | 
![]()  | 
List classes of boat for sale  | 
TheLaserClass | 
 
    Post Reply   
   | 
  Page <1 56789 13> | 
| Author | |
   
   
   Grumpycat  
   
   Far too distracted from work  
   Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Topic: TheLaserClassPosted: 26 Oct 20 at 7:26pm  | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   I totally understand, in this situation you have the twin responsibilities of listening and protecting your members . I would never criticise any club on what they decide in this difficult time. 
   
   
   | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   andymck  
   
   Far too distracted from work  
   Joined: 15 Dec 06 Location: Stamford Online Status: Offline Posts: 397  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 7:34pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   Back on topic 
 
   
   
  I had to explain the situation to a parent at our club today. He was about to order an LPE boat for his son. It would have been a disaster as the kids all want to go to national youth events. He only asked as he could not understand the reason why second hand ones were so expensive. This is going to leave some purchasers who don’t understand rightfully angry. Andy  | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Andy Mck
     
   
   | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   423zero  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 9:28pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   RYA needs to send a message to all affiliated clubs explaining the issues.
 
   
   
   | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Robert
     
   
   | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   iGRF  
   
   Really should get out more  
    
   Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 9:58pm | 
 
   
   
   
 Sounds like something for the Consumer Protection (Fair Trading)Act. They might find it very tricky to make it stick if any of the parents were savvy enough.  | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   Sam.Spoons  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:11pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   
I guess there's a little of 'caveat emptor' here, or in modern english 'if it looks too good to be true its too good to be true'. Not that that helps the parents who are not diligent enough, and at the end of the day, surely (in their eyes), 'a Laser is a Laser'... Maybe ILCA could offer a measurement scheme where they measure 'Laser hulls' without a WS Plaque and certify them as conforming, I see the cost being £1145 for a WS plaque   
   
   
  ![]() Edited by Sam.Spoons - 26 Oct 20 at 10:18pm  | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
 
   
  Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"  | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   423zero  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:18pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   It actually is a 'Laser' hopefully an accommodation can be reached sometime down the line, TLC doesn't appear to have much Internet traffic, perhaps they are close to fading, 'Kirby Torch class' style. 
    
   
   
   | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Robert
     
   
   | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   Sam.Spoons  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:20pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   
At least the Kirby Torch had some tenuous claim to the moral high ground... 
   
   
  FWIW the LPE Laser XP/Composite topmast version is currently £45 more expensive than the Harken 'Class Legal' ILCA dinghy from Sailboats. You can still buy a LPE Radial or 4.7 for well under £4k though.
 
Edited by Sam.Spoons - 26 Oct 20 at 10:26pm  | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
 
   
  Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"  | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   423zero  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:29pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   I think they still have some Hulls with correct badges. 
    
   
   
   | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Robert
     
   
   | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   Sam.Spoons  
   
   Really should get out more  
   Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:45pm | 
 
| 
   
   
    
   They aren't advertising it as 'Class Legal' though, I'm sure they would be if they were...
    
   
   
   | 
 |
| 
   
     
     Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
 
   
  Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"  | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
   
   
   Grumpycat  
   
   Far too distracted from work  
   Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497  | 
  
   
      Post Options
    
        Quote   Reply
   
     Posted: 26 Oct 20 at 10:47pm | 
 
   
   
   
 Err no . It’s just a boat called laser in the uk and USA , as no one is now checking their construction anymore , no one knows if it still built to class rules anymore. TBH we don’t even know if they are even being built at all at the moment.  It now has no connection to the world wide international laser class association that has run the class for decades . Rasty never backs down , win or lose , so there is only two chances of an accommodation .  Fat chance and no chance   
   ![]()  | 
 |
![]()  | 
 |
    Post Reply   
   | 
  Page <1 56789 13> | 
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions  ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum  |