Clubs still allowing sailing

Originally posted by Paramedic hmmm its not a very good article is it?

Well it's hinting at a 'conspiracy' that I don't believe, but in doing so talks at least at a trend away from the lockdown and it certainly calls that 'Expert' Ferguson into question.

Principly this bit "Now, in 2020, Ferguson and Imperial College have released a report which claims that half a million Britons and 2.2 million Americans may be killed by Covid–19. The report has still not been peer-reviewed; despite this and Ferguson's glaring record of mathematical sensationalism, the British Government has adopted the devastating socio-economic lockdown that Ferguson has proposed."

After detailing a list of virtually every prediction he made being wrong and particularly devastating to the Farming Industry here.

He is typical of his kind and should never have been taken at his word without due diligence and peer review.

Edited by iGRF - 23 Apr 20 at 2:38pm

An interesting read

I think the Government was shocked by the level of compliance with their request for a lockdown of sorts. Economic activity went off the edge of a cliff really fast and people were far more observant than the authorities expected. From what I can see that took them by surprise and caused a bit of panic resulting in more generous support than they had anticipated having to give!

Originally posted by turnturtle JRS has been extended now - this will help, especially as the portal has opened up.  However there's a lot of disparity out there with the planning - makes Brexit look like a bad dream, not a reality we prepped for 3 times. If cash flow forecasts don't hold up, then these furloughs are going to rapidly migrate to redundancies - I'm in a reasonably stable sector, anything in ancillary spend must be bricking it, and I don't even want to imagine what niche consumer goods markets are going to shape up like.

Originally posted by H2 Originally posted by Paramedic I agree completely re the economics. If they don’t let the pubs open before December they won’t have to worry about reopening most of them as they won’t exist. Makes you wonder if Mr Wetherspoon was right harsh though it may be. From what I see I think it more like June rather than December is the deadline. Most businesses are in a really bad way, not the big ones that make the news but the small and medium ones that employ lots of people.

I have a really old pal who runs a bicycle business, of late engaged in the infernal spawn of satan, the electric ATB, I'd never seen him so worried back in early March, the cycle business requires lots of cash, hundreds of thousands to secure the motors, then millions to secure the supply chain right back to the component manufacturers. Luckily the next time I saw him (to pick up my destroyer of calorie input)the situation had eased, since the bike shops were being permitted to stay open. Had that not been the case, by now I could well see that business foundering and once they're gone, who has the grit to start over these days? Everyone of my former competitors in the action sports game is closed, not normal that you'd worry about them, but I do, the shops that depend on them, their credit facilities need them. That's just my little world, but there are hundreds of thousands of similar cases. The Banks? Seriously? Don't even think about them helping they're not interested. if your business fails the normal acid tests they're not about to loan government funds and at this time of year most seasonal businesses are at their lowest ebb and probably will fail, there are not that many balance sheets strong enough to bear scrutiny at the lower SME levels. I'm not going to point fingers but your own supply industry is a classic example of this. So I am very very much with Sunak and the Hawks and pray common sense will prevail and we stop listening to all the medicos and get the nation back to work and play ASAP, even if they do have to mask up, smart distance, whatever it takes.


Edited by iGRF - 23 Apr 20 at 12:17pm