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Sussex Lad 
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 Topic: Boat Bimbling Lark.Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 1:10pm |
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Hi All, Bought a well fitted out Lark last year. It has 3 controls lead back to the helm on the thwart. Kicker, mainsheet bridle and downhaul. I'm thinking of removing the downhaul control from the thwart and having the outhaul control in it's place as this seems to make more sense to me. I'm not familiar with the Lark yet so Is there any Lark specific reason why this might not be a good idea? |
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423zero
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 2:27pm |
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Outhaul certainly going to be used more than down haul, leave down haul for crew, never had much to do with Larks though.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 2:38pm |
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Likewise, not sure about Larks but outhaul is almost never adjusted on the Blaze, downhaul/cunningham is on nearly every leg.
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Rupert
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 3:11pm |
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Downhaul for helm, outhaul for crew would be the most common, I'd say.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 3:24pm |
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If downhaul = cunningham, I think that the helmsman should have it, since the adjustment is to do with feedback from the helm + mainsail set up.
You could have the outhaul led to a cleat at the forward end of the boom for the crew to adjust, perhaps with calibrations; I doubt that you are going to adjust it much from leg to leg, more of a course adjustment depending on conditions. If I were simplifying, I probably wouldn't adjust the bridle. Back in the day, we would adjust the forestay, usually with a muscle box, though a block and tackle is more derigeur these days; this could have a remote cleat, since the adjustment is more of a wind strength thing. Though worth noting that older Larks might not take too much rig tension.
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jeffers
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 3:24pm |
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On the D-Zero cunningham is a key control, much more so than outhaul and even kicker in some conditions.
Probably best to check with other Lark sailors which control you are likely to use more before making a massive change. |
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fab100
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 3:34pm |
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Yup, what 423zero says.
Outhaul on boom, downhaul to helm.
The former is more of an on-off switch for up/downwind, the latter a more variable adjustment |
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davidyacht
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 5:07pm |
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Though I suspect that you did them all
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Sussex Lad
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Posted: 21 Mar 20 at 5:32pm |
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Interesting.
Different sail maker tuning pages say different things but that could be because of differing sail specs David I hadn't thought about it from that angle. I guess the downhaul is as you say more about the feel of the boat. Helm knowing when to use it better than the crew. Best leave it alone until I get the hang of the boat. Edited by Sussex Lad - 21 Mar 20 at 5:34pm |
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fab100
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Correct. My favourite was the rig tension calibration written on tape on the board case which went, IIR nearly 40 years later; Firefly ~ F*ck-all ~ Not-enough ~ More ~ Don't-tell-Paul ~ Don't-tell-Parkers Note homage to Fireflies that everyone sailed with less than f*ck-all rig-tension
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