Laser Vortex

   Hi, I know this has been a while but I finally collected the vortex today as the owner had be very unwell. The boat needs some TLC but I managed to get it for €300. Has anyone got a rigging guide and information on the sheet/rope lengths for each section as most are well passed their use by date and I believe some maybe missing. Any help appreciated 

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IrishAndrew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Feb 20 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote IrishAndrew Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Laser Vortex Posted: 18 Sep 20 at 10:13pm
	Hi, I know this has been a while but I finally collected the vortex today as the owner had be very unwell. The boat needs some TLC but I managed to get it for €300. Has anyone got a rigging guide and information on the sheet/rope lengths for each section as most are well passed their use by date and I believe some maybe missing. Any help appreciated

IrishAndrew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Feb 20 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote IrishAndrew Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 20 at 5:49pm
	Thanks

Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Feb 20 at 5:21pm
	Best to contact the Class: Class Secretary,Andrew Straton, through membership@sailvortex.org https://sailvortex.org
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IrishAndrew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Feb 20 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote IrishAndrew Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Feb 20 at 8:55pm
	Does anybody know or have any contacts with the "Vortex" crew who might have some second hand sails for sale. As above it might be a way I can make the costs work better for me especially on the basis I'm not planning on racing

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Feb 20 at 9:55am
	Yes, but thanks for the though. I'm on the lookout for a replacement ISO main for my current (ex-prototype North) ISO main but The ISO seems to be a declining class too* at the moment and there don't seem to be many decent used sails around. The kite is an issue too as it's about 30% smaller than the Spice kite. If I can find a reasonably priced main I might consider £350 or so for a 'training' kite. * The Spice is long past the 'declining' stage but still great fun......
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Feb 20 at 7:27am
	Sam Spoons, have you tried fitting Iso sails? Must still be a few around.
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Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Feb 20 at 12:49am
	Being UK based I'd probably be looking for a boat with sails ready to go and expecting to pay no more than £1000 but without the sails you are looking at £1150 for the sails alone so I'm not sure the sums add up. Unless the boat is really tidy and has a good combi trailer then whatever you pay makes it expensive by the time you're bought the new sails. If you could source some cheap used sails then it becomes a different proposition. But I think it would be a fun boat, it was on my shortlist before I bought the Blaze a couple of years ago and it was a tough choice to make. My monohull background won through in the end (despite 30 years of windsurfing......). I'm having the same dilemma WRT the Spice, it really needs new sails but, with nobody sailing them I would not be able to sell the sails separately and they wouldn't add enough value to the boat to recover more than a very small percentage of their cost (a full suit costs £1195, the boat is worth, at best, £500 inc combi, one good, original, main and jib and a few other usable sails) even with new sails I doubt she'd fetch more than £1k. Vortex is slightly better prospect except you wouldn't have old sails to sell with the boat so you could sell the newer ones separately to recover some of their value. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 26 Feb 20 at 12:52am
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IrishAndrew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Feb 20 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote IrishAndrew Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 9:24pm
	I have asked around on the Vortex sites and there is a company licensed to sell official Vortex spares in the UK including sails so I expect it's a genuine sail to spec and no a knock off. I understand it's not ideal but part of the reason the boats for sale and on the cheaper side. I'm not too fussed on its resale as it wont get overly used and if I can just use it for the time I want without spending a fortune on it then that will he good enough for me. If you were buying without sails what would you offer.

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 8:47pm
	The main wants to be right ideally (right luff, foot and area), replicas are fine but I suspect a rep will cost you at least £500. You could ask the Yorkshire Dales guys if anybody has a spare? The kite is less critical, as long as it's about the right size it'll work fine for blasting (I use an Omega kite on the Spice much of the time when not racing). If you buy new sails they will increase the value of the boat on resale depending how much use you give them. But a Vortex may not be an especially easy boat to sell when the time comes as they are not a very active class so may not realise it's true worth. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 25 Feb 20 at 8:48pm
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IrishAndrew Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Feb 20 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote IrishAndrew Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Feb 20 at 6:39pm
	The guy selling the Vortex lost the sails in a house move so I'd need to purchase these, I know the main is around £600 and the kite £550. The boat is on sale for €650 but obviously I wouldn't pay that. Everything else is there and seems to be in good condition for its age. What do you guys think it's worth on that basis. Note it is rigged for the kite.