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    Posted: 16 Oct 19 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by boatshed



You could use a key ball trapeze harness.  I do on my Contender and after a while you get used to it and trust it.  Far less lightly to damage the deck and foils.   Also, safer.  


I'm using a waddington flat hook thing at the moment (conventional loop on the boat but a plate with a carefully shaped hole in it).  TOTALLY safe, but about to be banned by the RYA who will insist we have trap harnesses designed by someone who has paid them a back-hander (allegedly).

I'm not sure the flat hook will work that well on a Contender; if you try to go out on the wire before hooking in you will be short of a hand to push the hook into the plate perhaps.  It's not an issue on my V3000 as my hands are so full of jib and kite sheets in addition to a main sheet that has no cleat and the tiller extension, that I have to sit down and re-group to hook in anyway!
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Re that lovely white Somner ....

Not me sadly iGRF .. that was the one I had my eye on in the hope it would still be available when I was working down there in a few weeks.  Hey Ho.

Need to sell a boat or two first anyway to make space in my boat berths.


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There are 2 good boats for sale on the Contender website at the moment, 1 is a All GRP Hoare, and the other is a newer composite.
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Fleaberto...absolutely and  I can confirm that as 620 is one of my old boats - a late Rondar if I remember correctly....

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So, the hull plaque on a contender doesn't need to match the sail number? 
I have plaque number 1720 but a sail number of 620 .... From this thread that would seem perfectly normal then?

By the way, the learning curve isn't massively steep so don't be disheartened - just get to some yoga classes to figure out the human origami needed to get under the boom  LOL
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OK so who was it that stole that lovely white Somner at £3200? Not like me to hesitate but I thought it was just too good to be true and it obviously was - Gone.
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Originally posted by NickA

Thanks for all the info folks. I have my eye on one now ... but it's a long way from home.

That bonezzi is ridiculously lovely, but I'd be so scared of damaging it ( trap hook score along the deck etc ).

I note that the best Danish sailor sails den 1 ... Presumably not the first ever contender then!

You could use a key ball trapeze harness.  I do on my Contender and after a while you get used to it and trust it.  Far less lightly to damage the deck and foils.   Also, safer.  

I changed because I managed to get the harness' hook stuck through the centre main jammer's rope lead-eye during a gybe.  Fortunately, it was about 6 knots of wind at the time but it wasn't easy to free my self.   To this day I don't know how I managed it but one does need to crouch down really low tacking and gybing and the centre main jammer is high up on a tower.  Anyway, it got my attention and I changed to the key ball.   I think using the key ball with 'tack sticks' probably wouldn't work.
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Thanks for all the info folks. I have my eye on one now ... but it's a long way from home.

That bonezzi is ridiculously lovely, but I'd be so scared of damaging it ( trap hook score along the deck etc ).

I note that the best Danish sailor sails den 1 ... Presumably not the first ever contender then!
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As far as uk boat builders go in reverse order; you have our current builder Hartley boat from sail no 2700 in epoxy only, before that it was Chris Somner in epoxy from 2550 and GRP from 2361, before that Bob Hoare in a mix of composite and GRP from SN 667 (uk numbering), before that it was ridge/wavelength from SN 616 (uk) any thing in GRP before that will be Rondar ( 2 marks) these over lapped with The ridge boat until the later 600 sn’s. All uk builder have used variations on the same moulds however Hartleys have completely retooled.

In the uk you will still also find many wooden Bonezzi of all ages as the last forever, epoxy Bonezzi’s from about 2009, and shappi’s ftom Germany. All boats from 600 ish will be competitive as long as they are down to weight with a carbon rig.

Uk sail numbers went upto GBR 720 and the started at GBR 2315 in 2006 (although there is small amount of overlap), other countries allow personal number (DEN, NED, ITA) which adds to the confusion.
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