Sail trim angle

   Oh, and get yourself some hikers with pads that protect the back of your thighs when sitting out. Best go-faster gadget there is.

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fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Sail trim angle Posted: 26 Jul 19 at 10:40am
	Oh, and get yourself some hikers with pads that protect the back of your thighs when sitting out. Best go-faster gadget there is.
	Great book for Club Sailors here

fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 19 at 9:59am

	Great book for Club Sailors here

Jumps Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 27 Jun 19 Location: Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jumps Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 19 at 10:35pm
	That is a really useful guide FAB100 - tempted to print it and glue on the Laser!

fab100 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1005	Post Options Post Reply Quote fab100 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 19 at 1:40pm
	Here's my tip sheet on setting laser controls http://clubsailor.co.uk/wp/sailing-faster/in-lasers/
	Great book for Club Sailors here

ColPrice2002 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222	Post Options Post Reply Quote ColPrice2002 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jul 19 at 8:05am
	The other thing you will notice is that heeling the boat to leeward makes it turn upwind: heel to windward and it will turn downwind. If you're hiking and the wind drops, you're going to him drag in the water, and heel to windward so you'll need to counter the sudden change from weather helm to Lee helm.... Colin

Brass Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 24 Mar 08 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brass Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jul 19 at 12:54am
	'Heavy' usually means rudder blade not fully down. 'Lots' usually means too much main. Even a little bit of rudder rake can make a lot of difference. If these are club boats with dodgy cleats on the rudder downhaul, ask around for tips and tricks to make it work. Replace tatty lines with new 'meatier' ones,and consider replacing tired old jam cleats with small reliable horn cleats. Edited by Brass - 24 Jul 19 at 12:56am

Jumps Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 27 Jun 19 Location: Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jumps Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 19 at 11:44pm
	Thanks All, Some helpful advise here (as usual), book is now on my order list, will try some of your suggestion this evening, current forcast looking at 9mph + 17mph gusts (hope it gets slightly stronger)

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jul 19 at 4:44pm
	Yup, keep the boat flat is the key even if it means spilling wind (the raked rudder on the Laser exaggerates the weather helm when fully down so if it's raked even further 'cos of a slipping rudder downhaul that'll be even worse). All the other stuff matters (kicker, cunningham, traveler etc) but keeping it flat matters even more so sheet out until you can keep it flat.
	Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"

SoggyBadger Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552	Post Options Post Reply Quote SoggyBadger Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 19 at 8:41pm
	You don't say how much you weigh but I suspect most of your problem is down to not having enough kicker on when the wind picks up. The "ideal" is to have the mainsheet traveller/horse/thingy set as tight as possible whilst still allowing allowing the mainsheet block to pass over the tiller and have the aft end of the boom over the edge of the transom. You use the kicker to flatten the sail just enough so that you can keep the boat flat by hiking.
	Best wishes from deep in the woods SB

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 19 at 7:59pm
	Ah, if it’s a Laser you’ll be pulling (weather helm) almost certainly as a result of not being flat enough, not having controls pulled on tight enough and/or the rudder not being fully down. There are some very comprehensive ‘sail by numbers’ books for the Laser specifically, which are a useful way of learning how to use the controls etc on all points and in all winds. Tim Davison is the author of one I think, but there are others. Well worth the money.