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    Posted: 12 Jul 19 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

Originally posted by mozzy



I think that in adult amateur classes, doing much more than 2h of hard racing in a day repeatedly is a big ask, as is 4h plus on the water repeatedly. More is Fine for weekends or aspirational kids!

sort the family logistics, get a pass out, pack your boat up, tow it somewhere etc etc for two hours a day sailing - beyond pointless. I attended my first nationals this year and was disappointed with too few hours of sailing. Kids do up to 6 hours for a week long championship with a possible rest day. Possibly I am anti social but to sit around drinking tea and talk about sailing rather than sailing is completely missing the point. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 19 at 9:41am
Originally posted by Oli

Your overall placing on each day could be your points, so if you won each day on a 5 day event your score would be 5. Each day is as important as the previous, not just the individual races but how you handle the differences between each day.

I wouldn't mind that. I guess it's the difficulty with breaking from tradition. Maybe easier with new fleets, or fleets being resurrected than something well established. 

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I think that in adult amateur classes, doing much more than 2h of hard racing in a day repeatedly is a big ask, as is 4h plus on the water repeatedly. More is Fine for weekends or aspirational kids!

sort the family logistics, get a pass out, pack your boat up, tow it somewhere etc etc for two hours a day sailing - beyond pointless. I attended my first nationals this year and was disappointed with too few hours of sailing. Kids do up to 6 hours for a week long championship with a possible rest day. Possibly I am anti social but to sit around drinking tea and talk about sailing rather than sailing is completely missing the point. 

Was your first nationals a week long event? I think this makes a massive difference. 

Personally, I can hack 3 or at an absolute push 4 races a day for a weekend event, and still enjoy it.

But, for a week it becomes too much of a good thing. The fatigue is one thing, but also it just leaves the rest of the day feeling rushed. I want to waltz down to the boat, slowly peel back the cover, drink a cuppa, enjoy a couple of hours the water. Then get back with plenty of time to get a post race beer, then sort my kit out, get a decent sit down, probably more tea, and a bit of grub. If the world was perfect this would lead back to the sailing club balcony for sunset with another couple of drinks and catching up with friends. People may talk about sailing, but I will happily listen to funny stories about family pets, or engage in a group debate over whether the bright star next to the moon is a actually a star at all, or a satellite, or a plane, or a UFO.  
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Slight deviation but I did a sprint event last weekend which was eight races of around 10 to 15 minutes each for the lead boat and really enjoyed it. Would not want to do it every weekend but its always good to mix things up to keep things interesting and to learn new skills!

With regard Nationals we recently did a class wide survey asking people things like how many days, how many races per day, how long each race should be and the majority came back wanting a three day event with three races per day of around 45 to 50 minutes for the lead boat. So, what people wanted was what we had been doing!
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Originally posted by KazRob

Why are your championships days in the past?


Because he hasn't got the time or can be asked to spend three nights a week in the Gym pushing sets of 50 press ups, 120 squats, 120 situps, 30 Chinups, Burpees, Squat thrusts et al, then the other nights running three to five miles chasing personal bests?
Then tuning the kit with a training partner hours on end, boning up on the bloody rules, running a course/ tactics diary, getting your head right....

When you did it already xxyears ago?

On a personal note we've started running two races on a sunday morning because we've got some new keen members, bloody hell did I have to have a lie down after 2 and a half hours, can't see me doing the second race that often...

On a positive note I don't mind doing things like that round island bash at Sheppy even though it's a bit of an enduro, but what I can't stand is all the waiting about on the water doing bugger all on multi race events.

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So it's laziness  Wink..... Well it does feel like that sometimes. But, I'm 66 and not as fit as I was in my Raceboard days. I can't sail three 60 minute+ races a day for 5 days anymore (TBF I probably couldn't back in the day either really but neither did I do all the training iGRF alludes too).

I still love the racing and if I get into the top half of the fleet at the (very competitive) club I'm happy for the moment.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 19 at 2:47pm
I'm not seeing many big numbers nationals on the horizon, RS200s are capped to 100, so Salcombe Merlin Week might end up being the biggest fleet dinghy event of the summer... 
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Salcombe Yacht Club Regatta Week could overtake 120 boats....something in common about the two events though.
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Originally posted by mozzy

I'm not seeing many big numbers nationals on the horizon, RS200s are capped to 100, so Salcombe Merlin Week might end up being the biggest fleet dinghy event of the summer... 


Biggest adult dinghy event....
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Yeah, sorry, I was talking about single gathering of a class. I imagine a few of the multi-class events will see more than 120.  

And to be fair where toppers and oppies get more boats, they don't get that many more sailors. So a pretty good achievement for Merlin Week and even more impressive considering the ~180 entries.  More sailors wanted to sail Merlin in Salcombe than any other event in the UK. 

Last year seems like a bumper year for UK nationals. Solos, supernovas and squibs all broke 100. Then with the RS games saw a boost to those fleets. 

Will the solos and supernovas break 100 this year, or any of the Aero fleets? The 200s are limited to less than 100 at torbay. We could be about to see the first year with no adult class with over 100 boat nationals in about 100 years!
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Think the Supernova had over 100 entries this year, not sure how many actually sailed .
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