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Sussex Lad ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 360 |
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The very early FG ents had a rounded gunwale with halfround fillets of hardwood screwed on the underside. The later FG ents had chamfered gunwales.
The very early FG ents that I've had experience of not only leaked at the tank/floor joint but also inside the front stowage, where the side walls meet the underside of the foredeck.......it can be fixed but is it really worth it? flexible hull, no rig tension without cracking the side decks. |
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ColPrice2002 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 222 |
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Having capsized an Ent or two, my recollection is that the top of the centreboard case was just under water.
The best bailing technique is to stand at the transom, feet apart and use a bucket to scoop water over the transom. Ignore the fact that some water will come in over the side decks. You should be able to scoop a bucket full every few seconds - after the first few minutes you'll have shifted enough to bring the water level down... I used to sail on the Thames - some helms found it quicker to beach the boat full of water and capsize the boat with helm & crew ashore to drain more quickly. Using transom flaps requires several factors:- Bow tank (early wooden boats had a bow buoyancy bag - these are difficult to drain with transom flaps) Force 4+ wind (or sufficient for planing condition) Nerves of steel. Start by releasing the flaps, now start sailing on a reach, building speed up, then steer onto a broad reach. As the boat speed increases, the bow will want to submarine, use crew weight to prevent this. As you get a substantial bow wave, both crew run to the transom and bounce. This lifts the bow out of the water and at the right speed the bow will stay up. At this point, the water in the hull will rush aft, hit the transom and pour out over the transom, be sucked out via the flaps. You'll also notice that a wave will rebound from the transom and travel forward in the dinghy. Keep the bow up - play the job, bounce. As this wave goes forward, it depresses the bow. Hopefully, it will rebound off the is tank, and when it reaches the transom you'll have only a few inches of water remaining. Boats will the bow buoyancy bag find that this wave will travel around the bag and the bow will go down and down and you end up swimming again... Flaps are good when coming ashore - they drain the hull faster than the drain holes, but using afloat take some practise. For modern dinghies with double floors/different hull shapes they're great, just some of the older designs aren't as easy to use. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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They had lumps of polystyrene foam in to prevent them completely sinking.
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
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That would explain it, front and sides one tank ? WOW, get holed it's all over
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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ISTR some of those old glass Enterprises had no separate tanks so once it was upright the water would be evenly distributed on each side. |
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3419 |
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Rich,
Only one side of boat was in the water Saturday but both tanks held the same amount of water, so capsize wasn't the issue, probably floor joints. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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The seam between the tank and the floor is notorious for leaking and a real pain to fix permanently.
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RichC69 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 19 Location: Birmingham, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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I appreciate this is an old post, but it is of interest to me non the less, as I have just bought a mid 1970's GRP Ent (possibly a 404 before they amalgamated the class). We had our first capsize last Saturday after a poorly executed gybe - my fault. I managed to right her okay, however when she came up, the rear of the transom was level with the water and the centre board case was well below the water on board. My daughter was scooped up, but I was concerned that my weight could actually sink her. I got on board after a bit of frantic bailing but we were still very low in the water, we managed to get underway and opened the self bailer which seemed to help a bit, but the transom flaps were submerged unless roll tacking and then let in more water than they got rid of. We managed to get rid of most of the water through bailing and the self bailer. At the end of the day we found she had taken on a lot of water into the buoyancy tanks as she was very heavy to pull up the slip way and the water ran for ages from the two buoyancy tank drains. I am going to do a low pressure integrity test on the hull to hopefully find and fix the leak, I think there may be a hairline crack under the gunnel that was submerged. Wish me luck!
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krt1978 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 26 Aug 15 Location: herts Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Thanks for advise all, think we going run Enterprise with new transom flaps & see where the sailing bug takes us before deciding on next boat.
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