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    Posted: 22 Mar 19 at 1:16pm
Cirrus,
You are forgetting the lee bow principal

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Well the water is neutral at the most difficult part of the haul, the loaded boat sometimes with even more water swilling in the bilges and ole Sam Spoons must be Hercules if he thinks a Blaze is light they are definitely in the category marked overweight to the point of dinghy obesity.

There are only very few 'light' dinghies. Aero, D0, Solution, some Phantoms, Moths, Streaker, Farr 3.7, have I missed any? I don't think so. Maybe the new Hartley Supersofa, not seen one.
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Hi Graham
Sorry you need to rethink that the Phantom is 61kg inc centreboard and all the fitting but without mast rudder (Removable items). Having just flipped my new boat over it might be a bit lighter than that time for some lead backing on fittings!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 19 at 4:31pm
Well my chums Phantom doesn't 'feel' like 61kgs it 'feels' lighter than my Solution when you move it around the beach, it was a Vandercraft version, don't know what they claim to weigh, but it's a devil site less than a Blaze and that's for sure.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cirrus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 19 at 5:53pm
...... but it's a devil site less than a Blaze and that's for sure.

Just as well you don't have one anymore then - nobody likes to imagine you still struggling with one off the water !  ... or for that matter 'on' the water from what we heard.  LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 19 at 6:23pm
Balance on the trolley makes a big difference.
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<snip>. Given that Health and Safety refuses to permit anything over 32kgs being handled by one person, until recently almost the entire dinghy population was in breach of H&S guidelines.

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what a surprise ...  wrong as usual ... 


Why of course I'm wrong I'm a man.

It was reduced to 25 kgs some time recently, not only am I wrong I'm living in the past.

Which makes using aluminium trolleys with their tyres filled with water all the more relevant don't you think?

I guess at least with a Miracle there are two of you, you're almost certainly a Miracle sailor spotting how wrong I am, they do it all the time where I sail.


There  is no absolute limit on weight to be  lifted  by one person.   it is routine for one person to handle  up to 2500kg  loads  in the workplace without  powered mechanical  assistance   -  the rated capacity of many  'manual'  pallet  trucks ... 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pierre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 19 at 7:57am
Originally posted by NicolaJayne

Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by NicolaJayne


Originally posted by iGRF

<snip>. Given that Health and Safety refuses to permit anything over 32kgs being handled by one person, until recently almost the entire dinghy population was in breach of H&S guidelines.

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what a surprise ...  wrong as usual ... 


Why of course I'm wrong I'm a man.

It was reduced to 25 kgs some time recently, not only am I wrong I'm living in the past.

Which makes using aluminium trolleys with their tyres filled with water all the more relevant don't you think?

I guess at least with a Miracle there are two of you, you're almost certainly a Miracle sailor spotting how wrong I am, they do it all the time where I sail.


There  is no absolute limit on weight to be  lifted  by one person.   it is routine for one person to handle  up to 2500kg  loads  in the workplace without  powered mechanical  assistance   -  the rated capacity of many  'manual'  pallet  trucks ... 

Well, looking forward to your demonstration of this on a sloping shingle beach.......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 19 at 5:17pm
Well I'll tell that to the baggage handlers next time I travel they are restricted to 25 kgs, it was 32kgs, and once upon a time, I did run a warehouse where, guess what?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NicolaJayne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 19 at 6:53pm
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Originally posted by NicolaJayne

Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by NicolaJayne


Originally posted by iGRF

<snip>. Given that Health and Safety refuses to permit anything over 32kgs being handled by one person, until recently almost the entire dinghy population was in breach of H&S guidelines.

.

what a surprise ...  wrong as usual ... 


Why of course I'm wrong I'm a man.

It was reduced to 25 kgs some time recently, not only am I wrong I'm living in the past.

Which makes using aluminium trolleys with their tyres filled with water all the more relevant don't you think?

I guess at least with a Miracle there are two of you, you're almost certainly a Miracle sailor spotting how wrong I am, they do it all the time where I sail.


There  is no absolute limit on weight to be  lifted  by one person.   it is routine for one person to handle  up to 2500kg  loads  in the workplace without  powered mechanical  assistance   -  the rated capacity of many  'manual'  pallet  trucks ... 

Well, looking forward to your demonstration of this on a sloping shingle beach.......


Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance  here Pierre 

you appear to have made a very large conflation  here. 




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