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    Posted: 21 Mar 19 at 10:39am
To float or not to float trolleys, for me depends on the slope of the foreshore. Home sailing is steep and rocky, floating trolley every time, as otherwise the only bit that touches the trolley is the bow and the rest blows around.

Nice comfy, easy reservoir slip or sandy shallow foreshore then a sinker works best.
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Safest way in any Lee shore waves is to lift the boat out the water and onto the trolley. At events we have done this with Aero's Phantoms and Musto skiffs I think we also did it with B14's.
Light boats certainly make it easier. I have not launched yet with my new Ally trolley so don't know with solid wheels if it will float or not.
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Originally posted by davidyacht


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Wow, there's a great sales prevention list if ever I saw one. I guess that's what happens when a boat obtains a degree of 'official acceptance' on the international stage, ludicrous, that's enough to convince me to avoid at all costs, outrageous really.

There was me thinking my Farr was a bit pricey at 7 grand.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Originally posted by Noah

Originally posted by drifter

Fantastic thread drift! But I hate a floating trolley (Albacore) lake sailing


When I had a trolley that tended to float I part filled the tyres with water before inflating. A litre or so water in each made it just into negative buoyancy and easier to handle at launch and recovery.

Ah, genius, spend £200 extra for a light weight trolly then fill the tyres with water to increase the weight  Clap

Actually my steel trolly floats (well, the end with the wheels on does).  Ermm

I hope that was tongue in cheek Sam - 'cos 'twas a steel trolley.
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Originally posted by Noah

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Originally posted by Noah

Originally posted by drifter

Fantastic thread drift! But I hate a floating trolley (Albacore) lake sailing


When I had a trolley that tended to float I part filled the tyres with water before inflating. A litre or so water in each made it just into negative buoyancy and easier to handle at launch and recovery.

Ah, genius, spend £200 extra for a light weight trolly then fill the tyres with water to increase the weight  Clap

Actually my steel trolly floats (well, the end with the wheels on does).  Ermm

I hope that was tongue in cheek Sam - 'cos 'twas a steel trolley.

Of course it was, Big smile It's far to easy to upset people accidentally on t'net, I would never choose do so deliberately.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by davidyacht


http://winner.es/files/PRICE2019_02_01_GBR.pdf


Wow, there's a great sales prevention list if ever I saw one. I guess that's what happens when a boat obtains a degree of 'official acceptance' on the international stage, ludicrous, that's enough to convince me to avoid at all costs, outrageous really.

There was me thinking my Farr was a bit pricey at 7 grand.

You could cold mould a nice wooden one ...
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.....plus the H2 width is all hull whereas the Blaze gets a significant amount of its beam from racks so the wetted area of the blaze is smaller than for the H2.

You will have to explain that one to me .... By implication if we were to take our Blaze wings OFF the Blaze (bear with me for a moment ! ) the surface area of a Blaze would then do what exactly ?  And in detail please say how as I'm obviously missing something here ?   LOL

Now if we were to leave our 'mind experiment' wings off and substitute them for a trapeze or sliding seat ... Can I then reduce my wetted  area further still ?! 
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I'd have said the waterline beam of Blaze and H2 is pretty similar, the blaze get's it's width by adding the racks the H2 with very flared topsides.
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Cirrus - what Sam said except I disagree that the waterline beam is similar. Park the boats next to each other on the ramp and you will immediately see what I mean!
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The Blaze would never be a good example of a low wetted surface hull, despite the extra righting moment of wings.

I suspect in falling over whilst fetching the trolley terms, the blaze hull is a pretty stable one.
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