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    Posted: 04 May 19 at 6:40am
Love the sentence about the d-zero

‘With a mainsheet traveler and multiple options to adjust the mast rake the boat was considered the option where in addition to athletic superiority, success would be more related to the technical knowledge of the equipment.’

Mast rake and traveler systems too technical for Olympians - speaks volumes as to why the Finn was kicked out
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Can see why ILCA are kicking off, they're definitely in the frame to lose it if that report is anything to go by, explains a lot.
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Probably will all be ignored and the Finn will be chosen with a small women's rig...
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WORLD SALING - EVALUATION PANEL REPORT
Selection of Equipment for 2024 Men’s and Women’s One Person Olympic Dinghy Event
' The evaluation concluded that there are two suitable items of equipment for the event: The RS Aero equipment presented by RS Sailing and the Laser equipment presented by ILCA.
The Evaluation Panel developed a scoring matrix against which the equipment options were scored based on the evaluation criteria for the event.
The overall scores are:
RS AERO - 80%
LASER - 69%
MELGES 14 - 54%
DZERO - 52% '

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Report by World Sailing - http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/EQCSP4biiiMenWomenOnePersonDinghy-[24944].pdf?fbclid=IwAR0kdvGpi7MM4v9-R672-SIQXuXb7wBgdKDR5f_wmdgw1Gz3GpSHyx8Zh0U

Interesting scores in the matrix. Suggest that for the actual sailing (Athletic Suitability and Performance) the Laser is still the best boat but they fall down on quality of build and standardization. 

Maybe this is why it is all kicking off in Laser land..!!


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Originally posted by iGRF

Highcliffe? What's that? Highcliffe reservoir?

Really? There are waves so tall you would have to stand on your own shoulders to see over them  Wink... actually that isnt that high for you is it  LOL
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Just fit an aqualung to your buoyancy aid Grumpf for any rough weather D0 sailing. Even on a lake with no waves it seems to go through the water rather than over the waves which looks fun if a little difficult to breath!!
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Highcliffe? What's that? Highcliffe reservoir?
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Originally posted by iGRF

 
Then there's the handling on the sea which those of us that like the boat were at the very least 'guarded' about in our comments, (except maybe me on the odd fb thread) it's not the nice boat on open water that it is inland or estuary conditions, it would have been another 'fun' ride at Beijing or the outer courses on those windy days in Rio.

I would beg to differ there Grumpf. The 2016 D-Zero Nationals at Highcliffe were a windy and wavey event. Even a pond muppet like me manged to get the boat around the course without too much trouble so those at the top of their game should have little issue.
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Originally posted by Riv

From what I can gather WS think that the Laser as it currently is does not cover the appropriate weight ranges for men and women, meaning that it disadvantages some countries/ethnic groups 
From latest descriptions on SA it seems that the Devoti is favoured because it is more tuneable than the others as it has adjustable mast rake
They intend that the Laser stays on as the feeder for what ever boat is chosen, the skills being fully transferable as non of the new boats are radically different from the Laser.
So, given the mission to widen sailing's appeal this sounds perfectly reasonable. 


That would be a disaster, the D0 isn't a Finn and like the Aero from the whispers I've heard the manufacturing has been 'varied' to say the least. Could it be ramped up to produce the numbers? Then if it did, how's the quality likely to be? Then there's the handling on the sea which those of us that like the boat were at the very least 'guarded' about in our comments, (except maybe me on the odd fb thread) it's not the nice boat on open water that it is inland or estuary conditions, it would have been another 'fun' ride at Beijing or the outer courses on those windy days in Rio.
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