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    Posted: 23 Feb 19 at 7:33pm
Hi all,

Our club is debating removing the one off flat joining fee of £50. Last year it pulled in approx. £1200.

Current thought is that if we get rid of it more people will join so we won't loose out.

Should it stay or should it go?
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Do you need members more than they need you?
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What is average cost of membership ? The £50 might not appear to be much of an incentive.
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We got rid many years ago. You may get more members but if the deal is really sweet for newbies to give sailing a try, they might not hang around for long if they find that it is not all they thought it might be.....
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My local club (finally) dropped ours after many years of campaigning by the membership. It was actively putting people off joining the club and did seem a little elitest.

The debate was strong but the reason for keeping (it was a new members contribution of the club infrastructure and capital expenditure) really didn't hold water. 

I do note that 240 new memberships a year is pretty good though. Our membership take on is usually pretty healthy.
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Scrap the joining fee, give renewals a £50 discount. Put fees up by £50. 
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I suspect that joining fees belong to today much like black balling did, to a time when clubs were elusive and exclusive.  The only valid reason for retaining them is possibly that the additional investment is a disincentive for not renewing ... however £ 50 compared with the typical club annual subscription is neither here nor there.  
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The main justification for joining fees is that's it's a penalty that can be used with people who fail to renew when they should and then turn up 6 months later expecting to be able to pay the basic rate. So you can say, sorry you're no longer a member you need to rejoin, that'll be £50 please.

A better solution is probably to do a modified version of mossy's idea, and give a discount to those who renew on time, and not to those who renew late.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 19 at 9:56am
Originally posted by mozzy

Scrap the joining fee, give renewals a £50 discount. Put fees up by £50. 

That’s £50 every year though, rather than a one off £50?
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